How good is Floyd's resume?

[diplo]

It don't matter. It was a match that went on his official record.
How much money he makes on a fight and how much credit he gets for when he fights/beats guys is two totally different things.

There was no 'credit' given to him, career wise, for beating McGregor. No serious boxing fan counts it as a career defining win. It was never billed as that. He was always the overwhelming favourite. It was purely for the huge amount of money that he made, and good for him. In my book, Floyd may as well have taken this fight as a joke. You do realise that not every single fight is for legacy, right? The McGregor fight made history for crossover reasons (as two huge names), and the amount of money it made them both.

[LeOoze]

Oscar, Manny, and Mosley were past prime, way past prime, and waaay past prime.
These are the types of excuses that Floyd boys live off of.

They were all coming off good wins. Mosley's KO of Marg is legendary. Clearly Manny was still great as he beat Thurman 4 years later

[djtmal]

Ok. Manny was not past his prime yet.

I stopped reading when you said Manny wasn't past his prime.

Lets see. He had 60+ fights, several wars and already been ko'd. I'd say he was good and past his prime.

[diplo]

He had 60+ fights, several wars and already been ko'd. I'd say he was good and past his prime.

What does the number of fights have anything to do with anything. He was KO'd by Marquez, which there is no shame in. Yes he lost to Ugas, but the previous fight he schooled Thurman. He beat Bradley twice (yes ok he had the brutal Provodnikov fight in between), beat Vargas, and Rios, all within 2 years of the Floyd fight. 'Prime' or not is subjective, and while Pacquiao's resume was better before fighting Floyd, he was absolutely not 'past it'. In fact he would still probably beat most of the current top 10/20 Boxrec ranked welterweights now if his heart was in it.

[djtmal]

There was no 'credit' given to him, career wise, for beating McGregor. No serious boxing fan counts it as a career defining win. It was never billed as that. He was always the overwhelming favourite. It was purely for the huge amount of money that he made, and good for him. In my book, Floyd may as well have taken this fight as a joke. You do realise that not every single fight is for legacy, right? The McGregor fight made history for crossover reasons (as two huge names), and the amount of money it made them both.

I don't care about any of that. If its on his record it can get scrutinized, and being that we are talking about how good or not good Floyd's resume is, you absolutely have to include that cherrypick because it proved how big of a cherrypicker Floyd had become at that point.

[djtmal]

What does the number of fights have anything to do with anything.

Ok it was nice meeting you.

[diplo]

Ok it was nice meeting you.

JCC had 79 fights before he started fighting 'somebodies'. Was he past it then? Muppet.

[djtmal]

They were all coming off good wins. Mosley's KO of Marg is legendary. Clearly Manny was still great as he beat Thurman 4 years later

Thats half the story.

Mosley was also 38, had been out the ring almost 2 years before Floyd finally decided to make a fight.
Manny 60 plus fights already been ko'd.

I don't care what they were coming off of.

They were all fully downgraded versions of the fighter they used to be by the time Floyd decided it was ok to fight them.

Now, had he just beat the best guys in their prime, you wouldn't have to make up excuse after excuse. He resume could stand on its own merit.

[diplo]

I don't care about any of that. If its on his record it can get scrutinized, and being that we are talking about how good or not good Floyd's resume is, you absolutely have to include that cherrypick because it proved how big of a cherrypicker Floyd had become at that point.

What kind of a boxing fan are you that you are so naive not to think that every elite level fighter always 'cherry picks' their next opponents. You don't think Canelo has cherry picked his way through his career? Do you not think that 'cherry picking' is possibly a sign of a smart champion? Just because you wanted to see Floyd fight literally every single big name in their prime does not mean those fights could have been made, either for financial or broadcast or promotional reasons. You make it sound like he just ducked people and never fought anyone of any significance, which is mental.

[diplo]

Now, had he just beat the best guys in their prime

Name me one fighter in this generation at least, who fulfils your impossible criteria.