Canelo really shouldn't be fighting at 175 lbs

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  • jas
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    #41
    bivol said he could make 168 and ever since he got hurt by joe smith, hes been fighting super careful and benavidez sparred him recently and said its easy to get to his body and predicts a canelo ko

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    • PRINCEKOOL
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      #42
      Originally posted by Boxing fan1981

      Bivol is a 6ft 200lb man.

      Canelo is 5’7” 175/180lb guy, tops.

      Im talking about their walk around weight, not when In training camp. It’s pretty damn clear Bivol and Canelo are not in the same weight class.

      Look at the face off. Bivol is much much bigger.
      So Alvarez is in the same situation Mayweather was vs Alvarez himself. Alvarez out weighed Mayweather by 15-25 pounds 'On fight night'.

      But as I have stated before, if people have got a problem with this? That is why boxing needs to re-introduce the same day weigh in rule.

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      • icha
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        #43
        Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL

        So Alvarez is in the same situation Mayweather was vs Alvarez himself. Alvarez out weighed Mayweather by 15-25 pounds 'On fight night'.

        But as I have stated before, if people have got a problem with this? That is why boxing needs to re-introduce the same day weigh in rule.
        Wrong, canelo isn't trying to drain bivol here..

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        • Boxing fan1981
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          #44
          Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL

          So Alvarez is in the same situation Mayweather was vs Alvarez himself. Alvarez out weighed Mayweather by 15-25 pounds 'On fight night'.

          But as I have stated before, if people have got a problem with this? That is why boxing needs to re-introduce the same day weigh in rule.
          If I fight Mike Tyson tomorrow at a catchweight of 190lbs, he still outweighs me by 20lbs, so it’s even right?

          Except Tyson would probably faint and collapse by the 2nd round due to be drained.

          Thats what Mayweather vs Canelo was like. Imagine this Canelo boxing at 152lb? Lol

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            #45
            Originally posted by Boxing fan1981

            If I fight Mike Tyson tomorrow at a catchweight of 190lbs, he still outweighs me by 20lbs, so it’s even right?

            Except Tyson would probably faint and collapse by the 2nd round due to be drained.

            Thats what Mayweather vs Canelo was like. Imagine this Canelo boxing at 152lb? Lol
            Alvarez was fighting at 154 pounds prior to the Mayweather fight. The Mayweather fight was at 152 pounds.

            He was out weighing Mayweather still by 15-25 pounds when the fought. He was the big man, but still got beaten easily.

            Your analogy of fighting Mike Tyson at 190 pounds is not comparable to Mayweather Junior vs Alvarez.

            1: Mike Tyson weighed in at approximately between 215-225 pounds at the peak of his career. So by fighting you at 190 pounds, YOU would be forcing him to drop 25-30 pounds '25-30 pounds'.

            You can see the math, this is not comparable to a mere 2 pounds. Alvarez was at the peak of his physical abilities, he stated he could drop to 150 pounds and beat Mayweather Junior 'But he was beaten 12-0 to 12-1 easy'.

            Floyd Mayweather Junior was nowhere near the peak of his powers, he was there for the taking 'His fights after Alvarez were proof of this'.

            Canelo Alvarez tried to be the big man vs Floyd Mayweather Junior and it all back fired.

            You cannot be the big man all of your career, sometimes you have to actually fight fighters your own size. That's all Alvarez is doing these days mate.




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            • PRINCEKOOL
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              #46
              Originally posted by icha
              Wrong, canelo isn't trying to drain bivol here..
              He does not need to, Bivol weight drains himself.

              Listen guys, as you can see? I don't have much contempt for fighters who weight drain or do big weight cuts in the lower weight classes.

              It is always a talking point, and it is a boring one 'That needs to be eliminated'.

              I am not sure why people stick up for fighters, who opportunistically try and be the big man.

              You have to ask yourself the question, deep down why do they do it? They do it, because deep down they know their skills are not enough.

              So they need some sort of advantage, even if it is a completely backwards advantage that will back fire on them eventually.

              I don't think Bivol will beat Alvarez, as I don't rate his skill level very highly. He has decent strength and endurance, but apart from that? His actual skill level is only satisfactory. I don't see much creativity or elite level skills in Bivol's abilities.

              I am done with this thread, carry on and enjoy.

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              • Cecin
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                #47
                Originally posted by Amir Imam

                Bivol only has 19 fights
                Lomachenko has only 17 fights, and is 4 years older than Bivol. Isn't he a great boxer? You know this guys have nos a lot of pro fights because they have HUGE amateur carrers right?

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                • Cecin
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by HandsofIron

                  If there is no catchweight and Bivol is able to fight fairly at 175 lbs, Canelo's getting KO'ed.
                  There is no catchweight, no weight clause, and Bivol has more than enough time to prepare for the fight. Yet, Canelo will defeat him.

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                  • hugh grant
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                    #49
                    Bivol is a really good opponent. Not only is he bigger he is actually a decent champion.
                    Theres a thin line at this level and if Melo not firing on all cylinders a 2nd loss is due. You can have off night against bums and still win but bivol isn't anyone.
                    When you look back this is a great win to have in bag
                    Last edited by hugh grant; 03-08-2022, 07:38 AM.

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                    • hhh1200
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Cecin

                      There is no catchweight, no weight clause, and Bivol has more than enough time to prepare for the fight. Yet, Canelo will defeat him.
                      There was no clause for Kovalev until he broke the code of silence but I digressed.

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