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    Was Catterall underrated/that good on the night? Was Taylor drained? (Didn't look it to me personally)

    Or is Boxercise Ben just a garbage trainer?

    I thought Taylor looked terribly unprepared from the off. That was how I expect a guy to possibly look that wasn't actually preparing for a southpaw and took it on short notice.
    Granted a southpaw that actually knows how to utilise the shoulder roll is always going to be tricky especially for another southpaw but he look so unprepared and I'm buggered if I can see any adjustments this supposed p4p tried to make.
    Maybe I am missing something I've only watched it the once and didn't sit trying to break it down but all I seen was a guy constantly slipping outside the jab and it almost completely befuddled a supposed p4p fighter. He simply slipped outside the jab everytime and Taylor didn't know what to do, he looked frustrated, stifled, almost like he'd never boxed before.

    I like Taylor but I think he has gone from being underrated and underappreciated to disgustingly overrated & I think he has regressed under Ben.
    I've always felt he had real limitations and found it worrying how he's always having to rally and going life and death, struggling big time with guys who are not very good tbh
    I can forgive him for struggling vs Postol and Prograis both have a bit of quality about them but Baranchyk and unpopular one but Ramirez to a degree both very limited and only ever some sort of factor because the division was really poor once the older generation moved up. He's always in these fights & has some mad ability to make a rather routine defense turn into a foty candidate.

    I've drifted off here from my main point which was throwing Boxercise Ben under the bus - I'm sorry but this guys a woeful trainer & I don't care if his fighters haven't lost since whenever or whatever else. He over analyses everything for the sake of trying to sound like he is intelligent/knows what he is talking about.
    JT looked much better under Shane McGuigan, I thought Fury looked dog**** under Ben, same with BJS & whatever his name is that fought a week or two back.

    I think he overloads fighters with information has them really overthink things. I am buggered if I can see what Catterall did that was so difficult to figure out.

    Everytime I hear Ben talk he's just going on and on and on whether its in the corner, an interview or a breakdown. It takes him 20minutes to say what could be said in 20 seconds.

    How the **** did this guy get all these world class fighters in his stable? Its baffling to me. You have Ingle, Adam Booth, Shane McGuigan & some decent established trainers in the U.K outside you have the Reynesos, Garcias etc etc
    What is the obsession with fighters joining Ben Davidson? Its like a fan who has never boxed a day in his life has just been given this lucky break. Won the opportunity to train alongside a fighter and its suddenly stemmed from a mess about pad session into this fan training all these world class fighters. Its so weird to me.

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    And this guy just loves a camera don't he? Like is there anything or any length this guy wouldn't go to just to be in front of a camera?

    Its more important for him to get attention on himself, that is all he wants. He don't give a **** for these fighters he only cares about being famous.

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    • #3
      He's a terrible trainer that is just looking to latch on to already quality fighters and take the credit. With Fury, no matter that was happening in the fight, his advice was always the same, essentially get on your bike and throw the jab. That's it, that's all he can say to a man with Fury's skillset. Okay, boxercise Ben, **** off. Just like Fury did **** him off in the end. As Big John Fury said, or words to these effect. He's ****ing useless. Nash out.
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      • #4
        His ability to to talk a good game has gotten him in with some serious talent in boxing. He’s managed to take on two already elite finished articles in Tyson Fury and Josh Taylor and make them look worse, how he’s managed that I do not know but that is an achievement in itself! It’s one thing taking on youngsters with potential but when you’ve been given the two clear best British boxers and they’ve looked terrible under you then that should tell us a lot.

        And to think this muppet was calling other UK trainers lazy a short while ago

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        • #5
          Never been a fan of him really seems more like a celebrity with the arrogance to go with it, i don't understand why any boxer at the top of their game would hire this wannabe.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by dan_cov View Post
            Was Catterall underrated/that good on the night? Was Taylor drained? (Didn't look it to me personally)

            Or is Boxercise Ben just a garbage trainer?

            I thought Taylor looked terribly unprepared from the off. That was how I expect a guy to possibly look that wasn't actually preparing for a southpaw and took it on short notice.
            Granted a southpaw that actually knows how to utilise the shoulder roll is always going to be tricky especially for another southpaw but he look so unprepared and I'm buggered if I can see any adjustments this supposed p4p tried to make.
            Maybe I am missing something I've only watched it the once and didn't sit trying to break it down but all I seen was a guy constantly slipping outside the jab and it almost completely befuddled a supposed p4p fighter. He simply slipped outside the jab everytime and Taylor didn't know what to do, he looked frustrated, stifled, almost like he'd never boxed before.

            I like Taylor but I think he has gone from being underrated and underappreciated to disgustingly overrated & I think he has regressed under Ben.
            I've always felt he had real limitations and found it worrying how he's always having to rally and going life and death, struggling big time with guys who are not very good tbh
            I can forgive him for struggling vs Postol and Prograis both have a bit of quality about them but Baranchyk and unpopular one but Ramirez to a degree both very limited and only ever some sort of factor because the division was really poor once the older generation moved up. He's always in these fights & has some mad ability to make a rather routine defense turn into a foty candidate.

            I've drifted off here from my main point which was throwing Boxercise Ben under the bus - I'm sorry but this guys a woeful trainer & I don't care if his fighters haven't lost since whenever or whatever else. He over analyses everything for the sake of trying to sound like he is intelligent/knows what he is talking about.
            JT looked much better under Shane McGuigan, I thought Fury looked dog**** under Ben, same with BJS & whatever his name is that fought a week or two back.

            I think he overloads fighters with information has them really overthink things. I am buggered if I can see what Catterall did that was so difficult to figure out.

            Everytime I hear Ben talk he's just going on and on and on whether its in the corner, an interview or a breakdown. It takes him 20minutes to say what could be said in 20 seconds.

            How the **** did this guy get all these world class fighters in his stable? Its baffling to me. You have Ingle, Adam Booth, Shane McGuigan & some decent established trainers in the U.K outside you have the Reynesos, Garcias etc etc
            What is the obsession with fighters joining Ben Davidson? Its like a fan who has never boxed a day in his life has just been given this lucky break. Won the opportunity to train alongside a fighter and its suddenly stemmed from a mess about pad session into this fan training all these world class fighters. Its so weird to me.
            Who do you think the top UK trainer is?
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            • #7
              Fury, BJS, Taylor all had their worst career performance under Ben.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Dakuwaqa View Post

                Who do you think the top UK trainer is?
                Look at trainers who have taken someone and improved them. Peter Fury for me, works with a limited number of people. Take his work, when he took over as Tyson Fury's trainer, Fury was no better than world top 20, many guys would have beating him then, but Peter really worked on a style for him, a skillset, a mindset, technique. When he and Tyson parted, he had taken Fury from around top 20, to number 1 in the world.

                He has also done a very good job with Hughie, and I believe there is more to come. Also, since he took on Savannah, Marshall has a much more awkward style to deal with than she had, whilst, he still has her boxing in a way that unleashes her power as well. Peter makes people better, Boxercise Ben makes people worse. That's the difference between a real trainer, a real boxing mind, and a pseudo boxing intellectual, show-pony, attention-seeking, ****-hair prat, like Ben Davison. Nash out.
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                • #9
                  My issue with Ben, aside from the lack of experience is he seems to be one of those "ego" trainers that wants it to be about him. His attitude kind of reminds me of Adam Booth.

                  I recently saw criticism of Ben, I think it was from the Conlan brothers but they were saying that Ben Davidson keeps a record of "his fights" and calls himself an "undefeated trainer." Now I've not heard him say that but I wouldn't be surprised at all because it's the type of thing I'd expect him to come out with.

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                  • #10
                    Hest made improvements to Leigh Wood. Can't think who else he's improved.
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