Should Canelo call off the Bivol fight?

[GrandpaBernard]

What a Soyboy soylution

if you’re angry at Russia, don’t you want to see a representative of Russia lose

[GrandpaBernard]

The people of Ukraine would lose respect for Alvarez over this

wahhhh me won’t fight cuz you a Russian

****** ****** idea

[GrandpaBernard]

Bivol should speak out against this war and become Muhammad Ali

[Roadblock]

There's no justification for NATO to be involved here other than the need to constantly control what's going on in the world.

Russia has invaded Ukraine, that's a fact. There's no propaganda there per se. But replace Russia by the US and the global support for Ukraine disappears, and so does the outrage and sanctions against the invader; because they would have found a way to justify the war (terrorism, democracy, etc.). They always do.

The western countries propaganda is in the way they release information to the public and in the way they demonize every political figure or country that doesn't follow their rules -made to their advantage - or share their vision of the world (Russia, China, Islam, far-fight politics, Iran, etc.). And they're actually so good at it that they have brainwashed their own citizens into believing they are fair and balanced philanthropists.

You need to see the bigger picture. This isn't about Ukraine. The whole system that I mentionned in my previous post was in place long before the war in Ukraine and will remain long after. Once you figures out how the world and the balance of power works, you will understand most of the geopolitical conflicts and wars, past and future.

In response to your second paragraph, I'd say we have unlimited access to skewed information most of the time, freedom of press is a myth and democracy is mostly a facade. You can still have a happy life and everything but that's how it is.

***** is a ********ically elected president. Or has he suddenly become a dictator?

Do you realize NATO is a democracy and is about a relatively free world? nothing is perfect but Nato is better than any form of Dictatorship, you need to research ***** he is all about himself, yes he is a dictator that even changed the rules so he is in power until 2035 I think it is.

Again SHOW me the western propaganda referring to Ukraine, Russia ***** and this invasion, show me that's all Im asking you , it was you that stated it Im asking you to show me?

Off course there is a balance of power how can there not be, but the idea underlying is a peaceful world that gets along, tell me who should have the majority of World Power, a ********ic group of the majority of Nations that vote for action. Or one head and his own group voting? a crazy dictator that values his own personal power and amassed fortunes above the lives of everyday people, in no way can the Russian people benefit from invading Ukraine.

I don't care for politics, they are all BSers but when it comes to War and killing innocent people they dam well better have a good reason to start that war, I don't feel Russia has any reason other than ***** wanting the USSR of old, Ukraine is no threat to Russia at all.

[QueensburyRules]

I want to see the fight as much as the next guy, but given the current situation its worth considering it.

FIFA kicked Russia out of the world cup, UEFA did the same to Russian clubs. Most sports organizations are doing the same.

I don't have anything against Bivol, but playing Russian anathem and waving their flag would legitimize Russia as a country and make it seem like nothing happened

Not to mention, the fight is on DAZN which is owned by one of *****'s Russian oligarchs buddies

Obviously it will probably not happen because there's too much money on the table for Canelo from that deal with DAZN but it would be nice if he did it

- - Be nice if U shaddup. U giving Stooopid a stinker reputation.

[Loque-san]

Do you realize NATO is a democracy and is about a relatively free world? nothing is perfect but Nato is better than any form of Dictatorship, you need to research ***** he is all about himself, yes he is a dictator that even changed the rules so he is in power until 2035 I think it is.

Again SHOW me the western propaganda referring to Ukraine, Russia ***** and this invasion, show me that's all Im asking you , it was you that stated it Im asking you to show me?

Off course there is a balance of power how can there not be, but the idea underlying is a peaceful world that gets along, tell me who should have the majority of World Power, a ********ic group of the majority of Nations that vote for action. Or one head and his own group voting? a crazy dictator that values his own personal power and amassed fortunes above the lives of everyday people, in no way can the Russian people benefit from invading Ukraine.

I don't care for politics, they are all BSers but when it comes to War and killing innocent people they dam well better have a good reason to start that war, I don't feel Russia has any reason other than ***** wanting the USSR of old, Ukraine is no threat to Russia at all.

Late reply, but better late that never I guess.

NATO, The United Nations, IMF, G7, you name it, are all from the same trash can. There are organizations consisting of and run by the most powerful countries in the world - except of course Russia and China - led by the USA and whose goal is to stay on top of the food chain by defaming and eventually destabilizing any country that refuses to play by their rules. There is nothing honorable about what they do. There are all about the only two things that truly matter at those heights: power and money. Democracy, human rights, world peace are merely concepts they don't even believe in but strategically throw out there like mirages to legitimize their existence and use as built-in excuses to strike, invade or sanction non-member countries with lesser military power, often geopolitically interesting and with exploitable ressources. This is not a value judgment - well outside of the trash can reference - that's just how it is.

I don't need to show you the western propaganda about the Ukraine war because it's everywhere in the news. Almost everything that is said and written in western countries mass media is made to influence your opinion. This time is no different, this is business as usual for them. That's literally their job, infuence the masses and manipulate public opinion. That's the definition of propaganda. Don't tell me you believe TV networks' job is to inform and educate people in the most honest way possible. TV serves two main purposes: to manipulate public opinion (power) and to sell advertising space (money). And that propaganda is almost always directed at the same regions, countries, ethnicities, religions, etc. How could one believe they're fair and balanced? I mean they're not gonna criticize themselves on their own airwaves in their own countries; and I told you already, press freedom only exists on paper in western countries.

We're in agreement about politics and going to war. Sadly, wars are more often than not started for selfish reasons by a small group of wealthy and powerful individuals. What did American citizens gain in the Vietnam war? French people in Algeria? Russians in Ukraine? Nothing. But the powers that be did not ask for their opinion, let alone authorization.

[Apollo7]

There's no justification for NATO to be involved here other than the need to constantly control what's going on in the world.

Defending the Ukrainian people and their right to freedom wouldn't be considered justification?

[Loque-san]

Defending the Ukrainian people and their right to freedom wouldn't be considered justification?

I don't think so. This is a conflict between Russia and Ukraine. Who would give NATO the authority to interfere? Russia doesn't when the US or France invade countries.

Ukrainians need to defend themselves - or surrender - like many countries have done in the past. It's a sad situation because ordinary people who have nothing to do with this mess are going to suffer, but it's not worth risking WWIII.

[ELPacman]

everyone in russia will be watching, maybe a good oportunity for bivol to send the right message...

Sure. By getting KTFO just like their troops.

[Roadblock]

Late reply, but better late that never I guess.

NATO, The United Nations, IMF, G7, you name it, are all from the same trash can. There are organizations consisting of and run by the most powerful countries in the world - except of course Russia and China - led by the USA and whose goal is to stay on top of the food chain by defaming and eventually destabilizing any country that refuses to play by their rules. There is nothing honorable about what they do. There are all about the only two things that truly matter at those heights: power and money. Democracy, human rights, world peace are merely concepts they don't even believe in but strategically throw out there like mirages to legitimize their existence and use as built-in excuses to strike, invade or sanction non-member countries with lesser military power, often geopolitically interesting and with exploitable ressources. This is not a value judgment - well outside of the trash can reference - that's just how it is.

I don't need to show you the western propaganda about the Ukraine war because it's everywhere in the news. Almost everything that is said and written in western countries mass media is made to influence your opinion. This time is no different, this is business as usual for them. That's literally their job, infuence the masses and manipulate public opinion. That's the definition of propaganda. Don't tell me you believe TV networks' job is to inform and educate people in the most honest way possible. TV serves two main purposes: to manipulate public opinion (power) and to sell advertising space (money). And that propaganda is almost always directed at the same regions, countries, ethnicities, religions, etc. How could one believe they're fair and balanced? I mean they're not gonna criticize themselves on their own airwaves in their own countries; and I told you already, press freedom only exists on paper in western countries.

We're in agreement about politics and going to war. Sadly, wars are more often than not started for selfish reasons by a small group of wealthy and powerful individuals. What did American citizens gain in the Vietnam war? French people in Algeria? Russians in Ukraine? Nothing. But the powers that be did not ask for their opinion, let alone authorization.

" NATO, The United Nations, IMF, G7, you name it, are all from the same trash can. "

That is a terribly misguided statement because if the ideals and persuasions towards a free world are from a trash can, then where does Hitler Hussain the Taliban and ***** come from, the bowel of a Donkey, they are not human with human decency, they are power-driven monsters that care about only themselves and ultimately become cowards in a bunker when it is their turn to face the consequences of their genocide on normal humans trying to scratch out a living and survive in peace.

Why don't you need to show the western propaganda that you said was all over this invasion, where is it, I can see the video and live footage very clear, are the bombs now targeting civilian infrastructure hospitals schools from Pixar VFX, no they are from Russian weapons hitting targets being innocent people, and this has been ramped up because ***** is getting embarrassed on the world stage by Ukraine's courage to stand up to the Russian might, we are witnessing a modern-day 300 Spartans vs the Persians, only the Persians are at the city about to destroy the majority of the fish in their ever-shrinking bowl, *****s wants to end quickly so that his army doesn't look foolish, so now its bomb everything and its everyday citizens to rubble.

I have no inborn interest in either side other than being human, I am a white Australian and do not have a racist bone in my body, every day I am so grateful to live here in this free country, Ive traveled the world and Australia is indeed the lucky country and far removed from smog war and poverty, I feel sick to my stomach of what the Russian Forces are doing to the people of Ukraine.

You seem to be more annoyed at who amasses the most wealth than the atrocities being committed in Ukraine, which sounds like *****, Im putting my Nuclear weapons on high alert because of what the west is saying, wtf does he think we are going to say, good job ***** kill all the fish in that bowl, little one's big one's old ones and sick ones, get them all and bomb their cemeteries so they cant come back.

Im not interested in the past it can never be changed we can only learn the lessons, Im in the now and the now is getting fcked over by a madman that has the entire world on red alert because he has all that Nuclear weaponry, what do you think Hitler would do if he had *****'s power and resources, no Dictator in history past present and future should ever have access to the power ***** has, in a ********ic world that has equal power only it is controlled by a lot more than one man.

You sound like you are condoning what ***** is doing? you sound like the invasion is and all its cost as justified ?

By the way what is your nationality, are you neutral as I am, or do you have blood ties or interests in Russia ? you sound like a Nato hater Im interested in why you are.

Its looking like ***** has the most power in your power struggle, if Nato strikes Russian forces it would escalate to WW3, do you understand the price of that, there is enough fire power to tilt the axis of the planet, if it went all out it could be the end of humanity, that's the power one man has right now, and he is juggling that power like juggling a grenade in kindergarten, Im sure all of Nato would love to run ***** out of Ukraine which the could do easy, but Nato is rational and does not want WW3, ***** is not, Nato is trying to have his own people see what ***** is doing and kill him from the inside out, Nato is being a 50cal sniper while ***** is the flagrant executioner running to chop heads off children.