Should Canelo call off the Bivol fight?

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  • jmrf4435
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    #21
    What, this is so dumb

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    • Szef
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      #22
      Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
      We don’t cancel NBA games because of China’s investment in the league, and they are responsible for countless human rights violations.
      If China invades another country (like Taiwan) you should.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Lance98
        Canelo has bad timing on his business decisions. Bivol may not be at fault and may be an innocent guy who don't care about politics, but sanctions are being bombarded left and right for anything related to russia, and going on with this fight in the middle of the conflict, is a bad move. Even for a ggg trilogy, it is a bad move as kazakhstan is part of the CSTO with Russia, plus ggg has 2 brothers who passed away serving the russian army during the soviet union era and a russian dad. It may seem like small things that can be glossed over if there is no russia-ukraine conflict, but it could affect the boxers or anyone just from association with russia. Underestimating such impact on the sports, is naïve.
        Thank you. A mature response.

        Obviously Bivol didn't do anything wrong, but some things are more important than boxing. And as somebody above said, it would send a powerful message.

        I don't agree about the GGG tho. Kazakhstan didn't agree to send their military to Ukraine when ***** asked them to do so a few days ago.

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        • Loque-san
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          #24
          Originally posted by Roadblock

          If Nato were to fight with Military force against Russia to drive them out of Ukraine that would probably start a WW3, especially so if China sided with Russia and also if Russia let off Nuclear weapons, it may escalate yet as I cant see Russia just rolling over to be starved out of all world markets.

          I asked to you tell me what western propaganda are to talking about ?

          As for Bivol, he is no more innocent than the children being bombed by Russia, he would just be another political statement.

          As for going to war in the middle east, did you forget 9/11, did you forget Hussain setting fire to massive oil wells, I don't agree with war but some crazy dictators know of no other way.

          Can you tell me what did Ukraine do to provoke an all-out invasion?

          Once again NATO shouldn't have any business interfering in a conflict between two countries that are not even part of the organization and that has nothing to with them in the first pace. If they do, things could indeed get out of hand quickly and they should be held accountable if WWIII occurs.
          NATO or The United Nations didn't say anything for example when France invaded Lybia of Ivory Coast, because France are part of the team, and they wouldn't say anything either if the US were to invade a third world country tomorrow for whatever fallacious reasons.
          You need to understand that these countries basically have carte banche to do whatever they want and get away with it, because they stick with each other - like a gang - control intergovernmental organizations and worldwide mass media.

          What do you mean what western propaganda? That is one strange question... I'm talking about the constant western propaganda through mass media about absolutely everything, be it domestic or international news.

          The Gulf War was before 9/11.

          I don't know what Ukraine did but that's not the point. Russia wouldn't get USA's blessings no matter what. They're just not a member of the gang.


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            #25
            Originally posted by Fists_of_Fury
            Threads like this are made after a gender reassignment surgery, lack of testosterone and a heightened level of estrogen. The thread starter has turned into a pussy. Bivol didn't do anything wrong. You don't blame innocent people for the acts of others.
            My favorite poster is back

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            • Roadblock
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              #26
              Originally posted by Loque-san


              Once again NATO shouldn't have any business interfering in a conflict between two countries that are not even part of the organization and that has nothing to with them in the first pace. If they do, things could indeed get out of hand quickly and they should be held accountable if WWIII occurs.
              NATO or The United Nations didn't say anything for example when France invaded Lybia of Ivory Coast, because France are part of the team, and they wouldn't say anything either if the US were to invade a third world country tomorrow for whatever fallacious reasons.
              You need to understand that these countries basically have carte banche to do whatever they want and get away with it, because they stick with each other - like a gang - control intergovernmental organizations and worldwide mass media.

              What do you mean what western propaganda? That is one strange question... I'm talking about the constant western propaganda through mass media about absolutely everything, be it domestic or international news.

              The Gulf War was before 9/11.

              I don't know what Ukraine did but that's not the point. Russia wouldn't get USA's blessings no matter what. They're just not a member of the gang.

              A lot of Nato is on the border of these countries how can they not be on the edge, they won't fire the first rocket ***** is a dictator who will fire the first shot at Nato but you say it will be Natos fault, I don't understand that idea, from what I can see Ukraine want their own sovereignty and independence as many other countries in the free world have done, dictators want ownership, there is a massive difference for the common people.

              I thought is was a simple question what is the western propaganda concerning the Ukraine invasion they are putting out, I don't see it, I live in a free country with unlimited access to information, the Russians don't have that they get told what is going on by the government they don't have a free press and have with very little access to anything.

              Just keep things on Ukraine this is the focal point, this is what the world is up in arms over, again what western propaganda are you talking about in regards to the current Invasion?

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                #27
                Cancel? He could could try to use this to his advantage

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                • Loque-san
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Roadblock

                  A lot of Nato is on the border of these countries how can they not be on the edge, they won't fire the first rocket ***** is a dictator who will fire the first shot at Nato but you say it will be Natos fault, I don't understand that idea, from what I can see Ukraine want their own sovereignty and independence as many other countries in the free world have done, dictators want ownership, there is a massive difference for the common people.

                  I thought is was a simple question what is the western propaganda concerning the Ukraine invasion they are putting out, I don't see it, I live in a free country with unlimited access to information, the Russians don't have that they get told what is going on by the government they don't have a free press and have with very little access to anything.

                  Just keep things on Ukraine this is the focal point, this is what the world is up in arms over, again what western propaganda are you talking about in regards to the current Invasion?
                  There's no justification for NATO to be involved here other than the need to constantly control what's going on in the world.

                  Russia has invaded Ukraine, that's a fact. There's no propaganda there per se. But replace Russia by the US and the global support for Ukraine disappears, and so does the outrage and sanctions against the invader; because they would have found a way to justify the war (terrorism, democracy, etc.). They always do.

                  The western countries propaganda is in the way they release information to the public and in the way they demonize every political figure or country that doesn't follow their rules -made to their advantage - or share their vision of the world (Russia, China, Islam, far-fight politics, Iran, etc.). And they're actually so good at it that they have brainwashed their own citizens into believing they are fair and balanced philanthropists.

                  You need to see the bigger picture. This isn't about Ukraine. The whole system that I mentionned in my previous post was in place long before the war in Ukraine and will remain long after. Once you figures out how the world and the balance of power works, you will understand most of the geopolitical conflicts and wars, past and future.

                  In response to your second paragraph, I'd say we have unlimited access to skewed information most of the time, freedom of press is a myth and democracy is mostly a facade. You can still have a happy life and everything but that's how it is.

                  ***** is a ********ically elected president. Or has he suddenly become a dictator?

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                    #29
                    No, Bivol hasn't done anything has he.

                    Forgoe anthems and flags it's just two dudes fighting isn't it

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                    • Szef
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Loque-san

                      There's no justification for NATO to be involved here other than the need to constantly control what's going on in the world.

                      Russia has invaded Ukraine, that's a fact. There's no propaganda there per se. But replace Russia by the US and the global support for Ukraine disappears, and so does the outrage and sanctions against the invader; because they would have found a way to justify the war (terrorism, democracy, etc.). They always do.

                      The western countries propaganda is in the way they release information to the public and in the way they demonize every political figure or country that doesn't follow their rules -made to their advantage - or share their vision of the world (Russia, China, Islam, far-fight politics, Iran, etc.). And they're actually so good at it that they have brainwashed their own citizens into believing they are fair and balanced philanthropists.

                      You need to see the bigger picture. This isn't about Ukraine. The whole system that I mentionned in my previous post was in place long before the war in Ukraine and will remain long after. Once you figures out how the world and the balance of power works, you will understand most of the geopolitical conflicts and wars, past and future.

                      In response to your second paragraph, I'd say we have unlimited access to skewed information most of the time, freedom of press is a myth and democracy is mostly a facade. You can still have a happy life and everything but that's how it is.

                      ***** is a ********ically elected president. Or has he suddenly become a dictator?
                      ***** is a ********ically elected president who has changed the law several times to stay in power.

                      Yes, he's a dictator.

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