whyte's resume will be better after he beats fury. right now its close and whyte essentially beat wilder since wilder forfeited and ducked him, not that wilder would even be whyte's best win cause it wouldnt, it just looks nice to have an overrated bum on your resume to the casuals
Fury's resume is pretty good
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I can't even understand the debate here.
It's good at the top end (Klitschko and Wilder), but doesn't have depth. Is that being disputed?
If the argument is that Wallin gives it some depth as well then you're having to reach too hard. He might be decent but there are levels to boxing and Wallin hadn't been within a million miles of the level he was called up to.
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Wlad must be the only fighter in history to vastly improve despite being 2 years inactive, 41 years old and coming off a one sided loss.
What he says is irrelevant.
Fury beat him when he was the champion.
AJ beat him when he was older and hadn't won a fight in 2 years.
It's very clear who fought the better version of Wlad and that is Fury. That is not a debatable topic.
Your point that he was 240 lbs is dumb aswell. Most of Wlad's best performances were above 240 lbs. His last fight where he looked good prior to Fury was Pulev where he was 245 and smashed him in 5 rounds. Whereas Jennings fight he was 240 and looked lack luster. So your point about weight makes no sense.
This notion that AJ beat a better version of Wlad is absolutely laughable.
It got started by Bellew, Nelson and the other Sky/Matchroom stooges. I literally remember Bellew saying: “Dat’s da best version of Klitschko I’ve ever saw”. F***ing clowns man.
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2 years is 24 months, Tyson Fury fought Kiltschko on November 28th 2015. Anthony Joshua fought Kiltschko on April 29th 2017 'That is 17 months between the two fights'.
What he says is irrelevant.
Fury beat him when he was the champion.
AJ beat him when he was older and hadn't won a fight in 2 years.
It's very clear who fought the better version of Wlad and that is Fury. That is not a debatable topic.
Your point that he was 240 lbs is dumb aswell. Most of Wlad's best performances were above 240 lbs. His last fight where he looked good prior to Fury was Pulev where he was 245 and smashed him in 5 rounds. Whereas Jennings fight he was 240 and looked lack luster. So your point about weight makes no sense.
And during those 17 months, he endured 3 back to back training camps equipped with sparring partners. He was not inactive like people try and make out.
Why are you saying that it was 2 years mate? Why is that people cannot just post facts? If anyone is going to attempted to catch me out, or have some sort of debate with me and not state facts 'You are not going to get very far'.
What he says is not irrelevant. Wladimir Kiltschko has a PHD in Sports and Exercise Science. Kiltschko has no reason to make any of this up.
If he stated that he was in better condition for Joshua 'Then he was in better condition for Joshua'. It was vividly clear to me that he was better prepared for Joshua.
Kiltschko did not win a fight between the Fury & Joshua fights, because Fury kept pulling out of their rematch.
Wladimir Kiltschko beat Byrant Jennings by unanimous decision. Hardly dropped a round.
Anthony Joshua knocked Wladimir Kiltschko out, where as Fury merely out pointed him and was not really the aggressor in the fight.
Not only did Anthony Joshua fight a better well prepared Kiltschko, the manner in how he actually won was more conclusive.
Anthony Joshua vs Wladimir Kiltschko 'Is the greatest Heavyweight title fight of the past 20 - 30 years'. You have to go back to Bowe vs Holyfield, to witness a title fight which rivals its intensity and skill level.
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U boy gonna be more than a bit Lyte in Whyte loafers for this
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I said HE HADN'T WON A FIGHT IN 2 YEARS when he fought AJ.
2 years is 24 months, Tyson Fury fought Kiltschko on November 28th 2015. Anthony Joshua fought Kiltschko on April 29th 2017 'That is 17 months between the two fights'.
And during those 17 months, he endured 3 back to back training camps equipped with sparring partners. He was not inactive like people try and make out.
Why are you saying that it was 2 years mate? Why is that people cannot just post facts? If anyone is going to attempted to catch me out, or have some sort of debate with me and not state facts 'You are not going to get very far'.
What he says is not irrelevant. Wladimir Kiltschko has a PHD in Sports and Exercise Science. Kiltschko has no reason to make any of this up.
If he stated that he was in better condition for Joshua 'Then he was in better condition for Joshua'. It was vividly clear to me that he was better prepared for Joshua.
Kiltschko did not win a fight between the Fury & Joshua fights, because Fury kept pulling out of their rematch.
Wladimir Kiltschko beat Byrant Jennings by unanimous decision. Hardly dropped a round.
Anthony Joshua knocked Wladimir Kiltschko out, where as Fury merely out pointed him and was not really the aggressor in the fight.
Not only did Anthony Joshua fight a better well prepared Kiltschko, the manner in how he actually won was more conclusive.
Anthony Joshua vs Wladimir Kiltschko 'Is the greatest Heavyweight title fight of the past 20 - 30 years'. You have to go back to Bowe vs Holyfield, to witness a title fight which rivals its intensity and skill level.
Why do I say that? Because it's a fact. He hadn't won a fight in 2 years.
If we're asking questions here, why do you always put quotation marks on random parts of your post for no reason? You understand it's nonsensical right?
I don't care what Klitschko SAID, words are empty.
He was older, and hadn't won a fight in 2 years when he fought AJ.
Fury fought the better version, when he was the Champion of the world. Fact. That is not debatable.Comment
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Whether he had not won a fight in two years is redundant point. Kiltschko fought Tyson Fury, and then 17 months later he fought Anthony Joshua.
I said HE HADN'T WON A FIGHT IN 2 YEARS when he fought AJ.
Why do I say that? Because it's a fact. He hadn't won a fight in 2 years.
If we're asking questions here, why do you always put quotation marks on random parts of your post for no reason? You understand it's nonsensical right?
I don't care what Klitschko SAID, words are empty.
He was older, and hadn't won a fight in 2 years when he fought AJ.
Fury fought the better version, when he was the Champion of the world. Fact. That is not debatable.
It is debatable that Wladimir Kiltschko was in better condition for Joshua. You have Kiltschko coming in at 240 pounds, you have Kiltschko enduring 3 back to back training camps during those 17 months, and to top it all off? You have Wladimir Kiltschko a man who holds a PHD in sports and exercise science 'Stating that he was in the best condition of his life'.
Ether people want to recognize all of this, or they don't. It is clear to me, that you only want to see or understand 'Things that make you feel like, you are actually saying something that is not nonsense'.
It is not scientifically impossible, for a athlete to improve their condition over a duration of 17 months 'Even at that stage of Kiltschko's career'.Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 02-23-2022, 06:23 PM.Comment
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Why are you putting random quotation marks on random parts of your post for no reason? Who are you quoting?????????????
Whether he had not won a fight in two years is redundant point. Kiltschko fought Tyson Fury, and then 17 months later he fought Anthony Joshua.
It is debatable that Wladimir Kiltschko was in better condition for Joshua. You have Kiltschko coming in at 240 pounds, you have Kiltschko enduring 3 back to back training camps during those 17 months, and to top it all off? You have Wladimir Kiltschko a man who holds a PHD in sports and exercise science 'Stating that he was in the best condition of his life'.
Ether people want to recognize all of this, or they don't. It is clear to me, that you only want to see or understand 'Things that make you feel like, you are actually saying something that is not nonsense'.
It is not scientifically impossible, for a athlete to improve their condition over a duration of 17 months 'Even at that stage of Kiltschko's career'.
The fact that Klitshcko hadn't won a fight in 2 years when he fought AJ is the total opposite of redundant. It is totally and utterly relevant.
AJ fought a version of Klitschko who was 2 years without a win. Fact.
Fury fought a version of Klitshcko who was the champion of the world and a decade undefeated. Fact.
Fury fought a better version of Klitschko. Fact.
I've already explained once already why Klitshcko being 240 is a moot point. If anything, Klitshko was better above 240 than he was at 240. All his best wins were above 240.
His last fight at 240 was against Jennings where he looked lackluster.
His last fight at 245 was against Pulev where he smashed him in 5 rounds.
So if anything, him being 240 for AJ supports the idea that AJ fought a worse version, not a better one.
Fury beat the better version. Anyone with a brain cell can see that.Comment
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Well it is clear that you don't want to move on this point. And I am not going to move on mine.
Why are you putting random quotation marks on random parts of your post for no reason? Who are you quoting?????????????
The fact that Klitshcko hadn't won a fight in 2 years when he fought AJ is the total opposite of redundant. It is totally and utterly relevant.
AJ fought a version of Klitschko who was 2 years without a win. Fact.
Fury fought a version of Klitshcko who was the champion of the world and a decade undefeated. Fact.
Fury fought a better version of Klitschko. Fact.
I've already explained once already why Klitshcko being 240 is a moot point. If anything, Klitshko was better above 240 than he was at 240. All his best wins were above 240.
His last fight at 240 was against Jennings where he looked lackluster.
His last fight at 245 was against Pulev where he smashed him in 5 rounds.
So if anything, him being 240 for AJ supports the idea that AJ fought a worse version, not a better one.
Fury beat the better version. Anyone with a brain cell can see that.
I have posted all the evidence and facts, which points toward Wladimir Kiltschko being in better condition for Joshua vs the Fury fight.
Ether people want to consider the possibility of Kiltschko being in better condition, or they do not. The people that don't want to consider this always have a agenda, and it is manly to protect Tyson Fury.
At the end of the day, Anthony Joshua vs Wladimir Kiltschko 'Was the greatest heavyweight title fight, of the past 20-30 years'. Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Kiltschko was not a great title fight, it was underwhelming fight 'Devoid of elite level intensity'. But to his credit Tyson Fury got the job done, I am not detracting from that.
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