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  • SteveM
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    #11
    Originally posted by BigBobArum
    Lol Khan is an IMBECILE and only has himself to blame. After losing to Lamont Peterson, he hired Virgil Hunter and had 5 impressive wins in a row of which 4 were against former world champions including Devon Alexander + Luis Collazo. He then decided to fight Canelo and get his fragile chin decimated (Virgil Hunter strongly advised him NOT to fight Canelo) when Brook was available and had just recently become the champ after beating Porter. Imagine if he’d fought Brook back then, he would’ve made loads of money and had a much better chance of winning then tonight as his speed against Alexander was blinding and his chin was still holding up (before Canelo destroyed it permanently).

    Basically, he’s only got his own ****** ego to blame for choosing to fight elite fighters like Canelo + Crawford who he had zero chance of beating from the outset. Khan’s problem is that he thinks he’s a top p4p fighter hence why he decided to train with Freddie Roach who trained Pacquiao, Virgil Hunter who had Andre Ward and now Big Mac who trains Bud. However, he is anything but and unfortunately training with the best in the business doesn’t automatically rub off on you.

    In summary, Khan was always a world class fighter (Olympic medalist, world champ + unified world champ) and has beaten plenty of other decent former world champs e.g. Alexander, Malignaggi, Barrera, Collazo, Judah, Maidana, Algeri etc. However, he was NEVER top 10 p4p material but unfortunately his ego couldn’t handle that which inevitably led to poor match making and left a messy end to a once promising career. The same goes for Brook who beat Porter but always fell short against the top p4p stars like Golovkin, Spence & Crawford.
    Why is Khan an imbecile regards his career choices? He has made perfect choices to maximize his career earnings which have been 20-30 million - and that is the game + retire in relatively good health. In the last 7 years I can't think of one fight announcement that has had me equally baffled and excited as Khan vs Canelo - just the audacity of it [although Brooke-Golovkin and Mikey G-Spence ran it close].

    Brook I agree with you to some extent. He obviously got paid well to fight Golovkin but if he hadn't of taken that fight then he'd have been fresher in the Spence fight. He won the first half of the Spence fight and if he may have done slightly better had he not had the Golovkin wear and tear. But yet again Spence may still have busted one or even both eye sockets. Even if he still lost the Spence fight I feel like he could have gotten back in the mix at WW against the PBC fighters and eventually made more money than he has. Brooks biggest problem alongside poor fight selection has been that he's not a natural welterweight but not powerful enough to make a huge mark at 154.
    Last edited by SteveM; 02-20-2022, 10:13 AM.

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      #12
      [QUOTE=RossW;n31306878]Have to agree, Khan looked like a beaten man heading through that back stage area! Personally I think Brook would have beaten any version of Khan and was the far more complete fighter. Id accept his record perhaps doesn't suggest that though.
      Originally posted by deathofaclown

      Khan looked petrified on his way from
      the changing room to make his entrance. Never mind when he got hit.

      Usually I never read much into it. Many fighters supposedly looked nervous but never mattered in the ring but this time it was clear
      Brook's record at 147 and above is superior to Khan's. Khan is like Danny Garcia - never did anything at 147

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      • Biolink
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        #13
        Sucks this couldn't happen in their primes. Boxing once again fails us.

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          #14
          Originally posted by BigBobArum
          . The same goes for Brook who beat Porter but always fell short against the top p4p stars like Golovkin, Spence & Crawford.
          Brook was closer to that level

          He fought Crawford way past his best.

          Had no business fighting GGG at 160, ****** move, sent his career into a spiral.

          then dropping 2 weight divisions after that GGG fight to fight Spence in the next fight was equally as ******. Brook could’ve beaten Spence if that never happened. You can’t go from 160 to 147 in your next fight, right off eye surgery and a beating from GGG.

          Brook could’ve been a p4p level talent without bad career moves. Still had a good career but never maximised his potential. Partly his own fault for not living the life, getting stabbed etc , and partly for jumping and dropping weight classes too fast in succession against fighters you need to really be ready for.
          Last edited by deathofaclown; 02-20-2022, 10:27 AM.

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            #15
            Originally posted by SteveM

            Why is Khan an imbecile regards his career choices? He has made perfect choices to maximize his career earnings which have been 20-30 million - and that is the game + retire in relatively good health..
            I'm not sure about that man the punishment he's taken is quite worrying.

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            • QballLobo
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              #16
              Khan was all style no substance. His combinations are eye pleasing and it looks like he’s doing good work but there’s nothing behind them and even a faded guy like Brook had no problem.
              You could see about a minute in that once Brook felt his shots and knew he couldn’t hurt him he just had to wait for him to be where he wanted him.
              Khan’s cooked.

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              • SteveM
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                #17
                Originally posted by Hype job

                I'm not sure about that man the punishment he's taken is quite worrying.
                Well time will tell. He still sounds lucid, sharp and focussed in interviews .... but he has a lot of life ahead of him - I hope he had a cat scan after last night

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by SteveM

                  Why is Khan an imbecile regards his career choices? He has made perfect choices to maximize his career earnings which have been 20-30 million - and that is the game + retire in relatively good health. In the last 7 years I can't think of one fight announcement that has had me equally baffled and excited as Khan vs Canelo - just the audacity of it [although Brooke-Golovkin and Mikey G-Spence ran it close]..
                  Because his trainer explicitly advised him against fighting Canelo and Khan shortened his career and damaged his already fragile chin in the process in a pivotal moment in his career after 5 wins on the trot under Hunter (great confidence builder) and a very impressive display against Alexander. Had Khan fought Brook back then when his hand speed and accuracy was at its peak, many of the flurries that missed tonight would’ve connected and he would’ve been more successful in his attempt to avoid Brook’s punches (his in and out movement vs. Alexander was sublime). Also, he somehow managed to stay on his feet tonight so could’ve handled Brook’s punches much better back then (pre-Canelo) and possibly won the fight. Finally, they would’ve sold Wembley out and made more money then he did fighting Canelo or Crawford.

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                  • b Murphington
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                    #19
                    Khans chin has been ruined for quite some time, but now in his mid 30’s, it’s worse than ever. Guy just can’t take anything anymore, from anyone. I legitimately don’t think he can last in there with anyone who’s anywhere near the top 10 in the division. Journeymen or fringe contenders have a shot at buzzing him.

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                    • SteveM
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by BigBobArum

                      Because his trainer explicitly advised him against fighting Canelo and Khan shortened his career and damaged his already fragile chin in the process in a pivotal moment in his career after 5 wins on the trot under Hunter (great confidence builder) and a very impressive display against Alexander. Had Khan fought Brook back then when his hand speed and accuracy was at its peak, many of the flurries that missed tonight would’ve connected and he would’ve been more successful in his attempt to avoid Brook’s punches (his in and out movement vs. Alexander was sublime). Also, he somehow managed to stay on his feet tonight so could’ve handled Brook’s punches much better back then (pre-Canelo) and possibly won the fight. Finally, they would’ve sold Wembley out and made more money then he did fighting Canelo or Crawford.
                      I'm not sure Devon Alexander is a valid litmus test. I agree that Khan would have stood a better chance back then.

                      But when Khan fought Alexander in Dec 2014 Brook had just beaten Porter 4 months earlier and more importantly hadn't yet fought Spence or Golovkin. I think that was peak Brook we were talking about and imo peak Khan doesn't beat peak Brook and most likely doesn't then go on to get the paydays vs Canelo and Crawford and would definitely have been without any chance at all of even being in the conversation to fight Floyd or Pac.

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