Is 32yr old Manny Pacquiao cherrypicking a 40yr old Marquez then getting brutally knocked out the worst cherrypick gone wrong in boxing history?

[edgarg]

I get how 'skilled' he was but compare it with a boxer like Roberto Duran and there really is not comparison in mentality, fierceness, taking risks etc etc.

Someone that came to fight instead of that calculated ducking, dodging and running. Not to mention the calculated cherrypicking, ducking and dodging PRE-fight ...

Don't forget the illegal IVs, and the several failed tests that were never discussed...except by Thomas Hauser's 3 Part In-depth investigation., that was published on this site ,years ago. AND the illegal Lidocaine hand injections, beofre every fight.

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You *******s are hilarious. Always trying to accuse Marquez of juicing as if Manny also didn't have blatant red flags of PED use also.

NO he didn't. I suppose you don't remember that Pacquiao sued Mayweather for Slander and Libel, and the case was in full swing, but during the preliminary evidential hearings, the Pacquiao lawyers demanded Mayweather's medical records. RIGHT AWAY the Mayweather offered a settlement, with NO production of medical records, and of an undisclosed amount. I saw reports that it was for $25 mill.

It wa all on this site. I suppose you are too young..or something to now about this...The whole Mayweather family could have been equally sued for the same reasons, but Arum said, :let them go". .....We got vindication. Pacquiao never used PEDS. He didn't need them. He was heavy boned and stocky, 100% muscle.

They way posters her used to babble about the sixe of his head..such rubbish. Their favourite picture was an extremely small maybe 4'10" Pacquia, about 15 years old, starving, and an amateur still, as skinny as a board., with a big head, as their proof. They never heard that the head of a child is the first part of it's body to reach full size. LOOK IT UP.

When a child is born, the problem is ALWAYS the issue of the size of the head. Even though the skull sections, are separated at birth and slide over one another to make birth easier.

[edgarg]

The worst cherry pick in history is Wilder picking a 400lb fury coming off a 3 year drink and drug binge.

Fury had had a fight or two befor ehe fought Wilder,,and won them .His previous fight was against Francesco Pianeta. Fury was about 40lbs heavier at weigh in, Wilder , 6'7" weighed about 210, Fury about 250. But at fight time he was close to 300 .
Even with that massive KD, outboxed Wilder most of the rounds. Fury won that fight, it should,not have been a draw. Yet he was down twice.

[edgarg]

The hype is for people like you, the Villian vs the Good guy lets build up an image its all for you, now the boxing is where the reality is.

Floyd probably beats Duran just Like Ray Leonard beat him by frustrating the sht out of him, De-Jesus beat Duran, Laing beat Duran, Camacho beat Duran, and don't see why Mayweather cant, you don't have to hate on great fighters because you don't like the style, boxing is not hopscotching, if you are not good enough with any style you lose and when at top level you lose bad, its not a game.

You actually sound like Manny's first comments, he wouldn't stand still so I could hit him lol oh boo hoo, guess what that's the very core of boxing, hit and don't get hit and that is what Floyd mastered, the sweet science is real and when you can execute with precision against all types of styles while beating 23 WC and HOF fighters in a row its no easy feat, you think a runner can do that, nope you gotta hit while your not getting hit, runners in boxing get run over, if you think a runner can do what Floyd could do you have no idea about boxing and especially the classes and how there is only a fraction of a second between you and your senses.

De Jesus beat Duran because he was a damned good boxer, likely @ 2 to Furan. Duran took him lightlyband didn't train. but the immmediate return h DID train and walked all ove rde Jesus. I saw both fights. Duran did the very same thing aganst Leonard in thei second fight., He boozed and glutted for nearly 5 straight months. then had to quickly take off over 40 lbs. He was a sick as a dog all though that fight, even though they were pretty level on the cards up to his walking, .Leonard would never fight him again, just like he avoided a return with Hagler. I can still see Leonard, when asked about a Hagler rematch, shaking his head, with a cunning smile and wagging his finger around his nose , saying....Uh Uh;;Noooo...

I liked watching leonard fight, but I must say that I got a lot of satisfaction from seeing Macho destroy him in a handful of rounds. I remember at the interview in the ring, Macho shouting, "how about another go Ray,,come and get some more "Sugar"...???

[edgarg]

The hype is for people like you, the Villian vs the Good guy lets build up an image its all for you, now the boxing is where the reality is.

Floyd probably beats Duran just Like Ray Leonard beat him by frustrating the sht out of him, De-Jesus beat Duran, Laing beat Duran, Camacho beat Duran, and don't see why Mayweather cant, you don't have to hate on great fighters because you don't like the style, boxing is not hopscotching, if you are not good enough with any style you lose and when at top level you lose bad, its not a game.

You actually sound like Manny's first comments, he wouldn't stand still so I could hit him lol oh boo hoo, guess what that's the very core of boxing, hit and don't get hit and that is what Floyd mastered, the sweet science is real and when you can execute with precision against all types of styles while beating 23 WC and HOF fighters in a row its no easy feat, you think a runner can do that, nope you gotta hit while your not getting hit, runners in boxing get run over, if you think a runner can do what Floyd could do you have no idea about boxing and especially the classes and how there is only a fraction of a second between you and your senses.

Duran would kill Mayweather. He was a master at cutting off the ring. But he'd have to take the fight seriously. He'd chase him out of the ring. He didn't take Laing seriously. It was a fill in fight for money. I was in Panama for nearly 3 years between 2009 and 2012.,; and visited Duran at home a few times. He lived near me, and one night, coming from the Anselmo Moreno-Nehomar Cermeno fight he nearly knocked me down with his car. actually hit me but was going slowly, just coming out of the parking. Very apologetic..Drunk as a lord. .Eusebio Pedrosa was at the fight also. Got a Huge reception. I had a friend who knew him well, and was a good translator. Duran, fat and jolly. After he beat Leonard, he lost 3 of his next five, and the loss before Laing was against the great Wilfredo Benitez. This was when he's already had about 75 fights. Who has 75 fights...and he was still climbing into the ring for years after. I saw both of his last fights against Camacho. He was 50 years old and STILL trying..

[edgarg]

marquez who I like as a fighter was juiced out of his mind in that fight and should have been arrested after that fight

It was suspected and talked about by everybody on this site. It was obvious. His appearance alone gave him away. Apart from other indications.

[Toffee]

I'm going to go either Joshua or Morrison.

Morrison took the big homecoming fight against Bent. Easy win in theory - and he got poleaxed and lost his big payday.

Joshua wanted a coming out party in NYC. Chose Big Baby. Got stuck in a tricky position and made a terrible choice rather than do the sensible thing and cancel - he chose the guy who looked terrible but could actually fight. It's fundamentally changed the trajectory of his career.

[edgarg]

What I know is Mayweather can compete with anyone his size throughout history, anyone, Im not saying wins Im saying he can beat anyone I give credit to all ATGs not just Floyd its an extremely special bunch of fighters, Id bet my house there is not a guy smaller than Floyd that could beat him/ Floyd would school DeJesus and would give Duran a frustrating night in the office, I don't think you realize that Mayweather was super tough in the trenches somehow I think his haters feel he is going to fold, lol Floyd is so hard to beat.

I remember the hate for Cassius Clay, the runner the chicken blah blah, these were days where you had to go to the Bar to see the telecast nobody I knew had a TV lol.

Jimmy McLarnin was 5'6" with a 67" reach, would kill him. he's a MUCH smaller guy, began as a flyweight and went all the way up to welter and won the title beating Barney Ross, one of the Greats. He lost , won lost to Ross, whose last fight was a loss to Henry Armstrong. Henry would also kill Mayweather, and was a much smaller guy, 5'5'....67" reach -an all time great. . McLarnin was a Great fighter himself. Ross beat him twice, lost once. ..

[edgarg]

Might vaguely fit into the definition of a cherry pick(By that I mean it should expected for the younger fighter to squash the guy Long in the Tooth), but enough people thought Marquez won the 3rd fight that running it back again was warranted. The 3rd fight was voted robbery of the year by Ring Mag. Happy Marquez got that official W over Pac.

Ring Mag was owned by Oscar, who had a long-running Hate Fest against Arum, who Promoted and supported Pacquiao solidly. And you know how truly honest Oscar is, with or without *******.-and other trappings.

[edgarg]

Why thank you sir. Your Floyds most skilled defense posts are unmatched bro.

All BS aside, GoFund Me thread, Roadblock in Vegas. Summer 1 on 1 carnival with Floyd. Homemade lemonade, wet t-shirt contest. Lots of charitable dudes here!

Also champion Olympic Breast Stroker...Hmmm. Didn't know he could swim.