Anyone knows when Usyk vs AJ & Fury vs Whyte will happen?

[Toffee]

I think Joshua has mentally left boxing. It's not that he doesn't want it anymore, but the fear of being hurt, and the reaction of taking another loss. The losses have hit him really hard, and I can tell by every interview since his last loss that he knows Usyk has his number. It must be hard being told you are fighting someone that you know you have little chance of beating, but that your fans think you will win. Reality vs expectation will be playing on his mind. Nash out.

You believe that?

He knows he's the underdog. Everyone knows he's the underdog. It's not some bit of inside knowledge that a few people on this forum have. The bookmaker odds will give it away.

But he'll believe he can beat Usyk. That's why he is making the fight.

I don't think he's quite the same either. Never has been since Ruiz. But the rematch (did what he had to do) and Pulev (impressive performance) wins were in the right direction. He was a bit tame against Usyk but contributed to a high level fight between two very good fighters.

I'd love him to prove people wrong. He's got a chance. You'll know he'll be physically prepared for the fight.

[Stuart Chandler]

An Alt who’s been posting here for 5 years? Seems likely…

As opposed to the anti Fury guy who joined directly after Fury-Wilder 2.

Everybody know’s this is **** Em, Robbie or another one of you Matchroom cucks.

Like your other alt make the ban bet like your other alt declined the mods can see ? I’m not in the U.K . It’ll be an easy goodbye good riddance .

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Like your other alt make the ban bet like your other alt declined the mods can see ? I’m not in the U.K . It’ll be an easy goodbye good riddance .

Why would I make a ban bet with an alt who would just make another alt? How does that make any logical sense?

It’s so obvious what you are, your join date and post history corroborate that and a your over the top, excessive denial prove it further.

You’re straight back every time as well, typical alt/troll loser behaviour…

[Toffee]

Why would I make a ban bet with an alt who would just make another alt? How does that make any logical sense?

It’s so obvious what you are, your join date and post history corroborate that and a your over the top, excessive denial prove it further.

You’re straight back every time as well, typical alt/troll loser behaviour…

I'll guarantee it's someone who used to post here, felt irrelevant, and reinvented themselves with a troll mentality to get more attention than their previous persona.

There are plenty of them around here.

I couldn't care less if people don't know who I am.

[Nash out]

You believe that?

He knows he's the underdog. Everyone knows he's the underdog. It's not some bit of inside knowledge that a few people on this forum have. The bookmaker odds will give it away.

But he'll believe he can beat Usyk. That's why he is making the fight.

I don't think he's quite the same either. Never has been since Ruiz. But the rematch (did what he had to do) and Pulev (impressive performance) wins were in the right direction. He was a bit tame against Usyk but contributed to a high level fight between two very good fighters.

I'd love him to prove people wrong. He's got a chance. You'll know he'll be physically prepared for the fight.

Yes, I do. I think depending on the mentally of a person, belief is something that can be beaten out of you. With the Ruiz loss, I never felt that he lost belief, but that he lost faith in his chin and adapted himself around that. But I think he lost belief in himself at some point during the Usyk fight. I'd love to see him beat Usyk, but I just can't see it. I think he'll give it a slight go at some point in the early goings, start getting picked off, then go into his shell instead of go out on his shield.

I think Joshua loves what he has. The fame, the money, he has been a champion, many good wins, one great win/name in Wlad. The only thing he never did was prove himself at the best in the division, and with Fury, Usyk, and Wilder (my opinion) being 3 people who I gave him little chance of beating, it's something he will never do, especially if he loses to Usyk again. Look, if he beats Usyk in the rematch, then he can go for being the best again, but if he loses, hell of a long way back. Nash out.

[Toffee]

Yes, I do. I think depending on the mentally of a person, belief is something that can be beaten out of you. With the Ruiz loss, I never felt that he lost belief, but that he lost faith in his chin and adapted himself around that. But I think he lost belief in himself at some point during the Usyk fight. I'd love to see him beat Usyk, but I just can't see it. I think he'll give it a slight go at some point in the early goings, start getting picked off, then go into his shell instead of go out on his shield.

I think Joshua loves what he has. The fame, the money, he has been a champion, many good wins, one great win/name in Wlad. The only thing he never did was prove himself at the best in the division, and with Fury, Usyk, and Wilder (my opinion) being 3 people who I gave him little chance of beating, it's something he will never do, especially if he loses to Usyk again. Look, if he beats Usyk in the rematch, then he can go for being the best again, but if he loses, hell of a long way back. Nash out.

Personally I think his ability is more in question than his belief.

He's been financially set for a long time. But he's still been a very good champion. He's always had a clear goal that right now is in doubt - and I suspect he'll be entirely consumed by putting that right. We've never really seen him show anything else but absolute dedication.

Whether he's good enough? Ignoring the BoxingScene "AJ is crap" type posts (he clearly isn't) we're about to find out whether he's still a legitimate possibility for best of the era.

No-one has that moniker nailed yet. He's an outside shot right now but a win against Usyk puts him right in that equation again.

Then it likely comes down to Fury. Beat Usyk and beat Fury and he's the one. And I've always thought he's exactly wrong for Fury, probably more so than any other fighter. Unfortunately I think Usyk is exactly wrong for AJ.

[Nash out]

Personally I think his ability is more in question than his belief.

He's been financially set for a long time. But he's still been a very good champion. He's always had a clear goal that right now is in doubt - and I suspect he'll be entirely consumed by putting that right. We've never really seen him show anything else but absolute dedication.

Whether he's good enough? Ignoring the BoxingScene "AJ is crap" type posts (he clearly isn't) we're about to find out whether he's still a legitimate possibility for best of the era.

No-one has that moniker nailed yet. He's an outside shot right now but a win against Usyk puts him right in that equation again.

Then it likely comes down to Fury. Beat Usyk and beat Fury and he's the one. And I've always thought he's exactly wrong for Fury, probably more so than any other fighter. Unfortunately I think Usyk is exactly wrong for AJ.

I'm very much looking forward to the fight, but slightly concerned it might end up being a dud if it goes the way I feel it might. The first fight was very good for 8 rounds. Usyk was still by far the better man in those 8 rounds, but the last 4, it was like Joshua just didn't want to be in the ring and had mentally clocked out and accepted a points loss. Though he was almost stopped at the end, it was certainly not due to him going out on his shield, he was just covering up on the ropes tying to see the final bell, and that's not how a champion goes out imo. Put Fury in the same scenario and he's throwing the kitchen sink at Usyk trying to find a victory.

Joshua needs something different. So a change of team, a change of scenery, some mental work, then maybe he is back in with a shot. I want him to win, I'm just struggling to see it happen as things stand. I'm looking forward to the build up, press conference, etc, see if I can identify any change in Joshua's attitude, belief and mentality. Late in that fight I saw a coward behind the eyes, he needs to be fully committed to a war to stand a chance. Nash out.

[removed]

An Alt who’s been posting here for 5 years? Seems likely…

As opposed to the anti Fury guy who joined directly after Fury-Wilder 2.

Everybody know’s this is **** Em, Robbie or another one of you Matchroom cucks.

I think it's one of Robbie's alts. He doesn't post via his main account anymore because he became such a laughing-stock.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

I think it's one of Robbie's alts. He doesn't post via his main account anymore because he became such a laughing-stock.

Same here man.

[RoadOfTheGypsy]

Personally I think his ability is more in question than his belief.

He's been financially set for a long time. But he's still been a very good champion. He's always had a clear goal that right now is in doubt - and I suspect he'll be entirely consumed by putting that right. We've never really seen him show anything else but absolute dedication.

Whether he's good enough? Ignoring the BoxingScene "AJ is crap" type posts (he clearly isn't) we're about to find out whether he's still a legitimate possibility for best of the era.

No-one has that moniker nailed yet. He's an outside shot right now but a win against Usyk puts him right in that equation again.

Then it likely comes down to Fury. Beat Usyk and beat Fury and he's the one. And I've always thought he's exactly wrong for Fury, probably more so than any other fighter. Unfortunately I think Usyk is exactly wrong for AJ.

I hope AJ beats Usyk, but if he does the same as last time........

Could you clarify what you mean by "[AJ] is exactly wrong for Fury"? How is that? I view that fight as Fury favored in every possible way, superior boxer, taller, heavier and last and most importantly: heart and grit, two things AJ lacks nowadays. He used to have it when he was fighting Wladimir but for some reason in the fights vs Ruiz and Usyk there was just no passion in his boxing, there was no "I am going to maul this cruiserweight" mentality.

Has AJ been Conor McGregored? Too much money and success?