Comments Thread For: Tyson Fury: Oleksandr Usyk Looks Like Muhammad Ali Compared To Useless Bum Anthony Joshua

[Rockenator]

Whyte going to knock him out and all of these ****** accounts like yours will be gone the whole mess of them .

Just make sure to show up, Stu-ey baby, when Whyte goes down.

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The obsessive hate of Fury by the same 3 Matchroom Incels here is proof positive that there is a mental health crisis

[billeau2]

Hang on.

Joshua is in contract with Usyk.

The idea that Usyk isn't part of this is flawed. Joshua was being offered a deal to free Usyk from his obligations.

Fury, Top Rank, Warren... none of them have any contractual relationship to Joshua.

If you think Usyk wasn't party to the discussions then that's flat out wrong. I'd argue that the line of communication with Joshua/Hearn had to be Usyk and his team.

I always said it was too complicated to happen. Boxing can't even make mandatories and contracted rematches without drama - never mind chains involving 4 fighters, multiple tv networks, four boxing orgs and a suite of managers and promoters.

Makes me wonder whether it's all just marketing. It had zero chance of happening.

Its not a simple matter of being a party. Its the matter of progression. Usyk didn't need to know anything unless Joshua was interested. You never give more information than you need to regarding a negotiation at arm's length. Perfect example, if I am selling my company, when do I let employees know? Heres a hint: not when it benefits them, rather when the sale goes through. Usyk didn't need to be a party unless Joshua was interested... Bottom line. Usyk's people can speculate all they want, its immaterial until such time Joshua is on board. Ditto for Whyte.

[Monty Fisto]

Joshua isn’t down anymore or at his lowest. We’ve been told by AJ spokesperson several times. Heck, he’s so high right now, he feels he can beat usyk without a trainer.

When these guys bash each other, you should know by now to take a pinch of salt with it all, unless it crosses a line obviously.

At the end of the day I’m sure AJ, Fury and Whyte all have mutual respect for each other. When you’ve dedicated your life to a sport, you respect a competitor because you know they’ve made the same sacrifices you did, put in the same work, took the same risks etc.

It’s us fans that tend to take it more personal than the fighters!

Joshua's career is in exactly the same place as it was after his loss to Usyk in September when Fury said those things. Point taken about taking things with a pinch of salt though.

[RoadMan94]

Joshua's career is in exactly the same place as it was after his loss to Usyk in September when Fury said those things. Point taken about taking things with a pinch of salt though.

I’d beg to differ. The first time was his first experience with a loss. Right now he’s clearly upbeat, he’s told his team he can beat usyk without a trainer.

He never said that coming of a Ruiz loss. I think fans need to start holding everybody to the standard they want to hold Fury in.

[RoadMan94]

Its not a simple matter of being a party. Its the matter of progression. Usyk didn't need to know anything unless Joshua was interested. You never give more information than you need to regarding a negotiation at arm's length. Perfect example, if I am selling my company, when do I let employees know? Heres a hint: not when it benefits them, rather when the sale goes through. Usyk didn't need to be a party unless Joshua was interested... Bottom line. Usyk's people can speculate all they want, its immaterial until such time Joshua is on board. Ditto for Whyte.

Eddies already admitted he’s the one who told Usyk team that fury didn’t want to fight.

He seemed quite joyous at the thought of Krassyuk believing his every word.

your response to toffee was outstanding. You’ve given not just him, but others an education with your post. Deserves a round of applause! Excellent comments.

[RoadMan94]

Yeah, I don't really have a problem with fighters talking smack. As you say, it's what fighters do. It's the 180 after making the public announcement -- while everyone was listening, as he put it -- to stress how he wasn't going to talk smack about Joshua losing to Usyk. It puts him in the same bracket as Arum where I may as well disregard anything he says as junk.

If you knew fury like you act, you’d understand when he said those comments they were in themselves a dig. He was reminding AJ of where he is right now. Because Joshua and Hearn loved taking shots at Tyson when he was depressed and obese.

some of you guys have super short memories. Or selective memory. You also wanna learn a bit about British wit and banter.

How on earth you didn’t sense this at the time of fury making the comment is beyond me. Some people really take everything said literally.

Your looking into something that isn’t there.

[RoadMan94]

Yeah sure thing Stu: because we all know that various promoters who would push their mother in the way of a moving train if it meant getting the est contract, are going to keep each other informed, and respect the norms of open, honest communication. You have shown how daft you are with these prognostications, but let me try to spit some knowledge and understanding your way, in the hopes maybe some of it may get through?

Usyk's team had no real reason to be involved with negotiations unless Joshua and Whyte accepted some deal. Sometimes a promoter, despite the pain it causes them, have to tell the truth. You can tell because if something makes sense, and there is no motivation to cloud up the works, it probably has at least some truth to it.

Arum, the grand wizard of lying, conniving crapola, was interviewed and actually told the truth about the Fury situation. Why? I don't know... maybe it was too hard to think of a lie and besides, it benefitted Fury in this case. Let me break it down to you and the other trolls so there is no misunderstanding:

1) Fury hates to not know when he is fighting next... He also hates to be strong armed. We know this from experience right? Fury was looking at paying Joshua step aside... never mind whyte... Because Joshua would have to accept first before whyte and Usyk had any say in the matter.

2) Joshua wanted too much. So Fury got angry, like he did with Wilder... makes sense... Joshua never denied this. He made a point of being ambivalent about it, even in social media...

3) Under these conditions Fury decided to just take the Mando. Simple. Simple is usually correct, if the alternative is overly complex... Ockham's Razor....

4) This means that Whyte and Usyk never needed to even know about any of this Now STU THINK!!!!! Come on!!! Why wouldn't Fury ignore Usyk and Whyte? if he is waiting to see what Joshua says? Whyte himself has been equally quiet? why? Maybe because he was not sure if Fury would be his opponent? Point is: Fury had no reason to speak to anyone else, because speaking to anyone else seriously would have been a bad negotiating tactic. Better to not seem to want the fight that much... and not let Joshua see anything to suggest what Fury wanted.

5) Think it through Stu...

The fact your post had 0 likes speaks to how factual it is. You’ve taken these guys to the cleaners, without petty name calling and insults. You sir, are the Kryptonite to the likes of stu, and the rest of the fan club.

I have a funny feeling we will see Stu on skid row dressed as An Eddie Hearn tribute act and charging people $2.50 for a photo! The man is clueless. And his little cling on GreenEye sucks up to him on here but roasts Dillian Whyte and his fans on other forums.

They literally check YouTube 5 times a day waiting for eddies next interview, they then memorise his words and regurgitate it on here as if they’ve got first hand knowledge of The intricacies Involved!

[Monty Fisto]

If you knew fury like you act, you’d understand when he said those comments they were in themselves a dig. He was reminding AJ of where he is right now. Because Joshua and Hearn loved taking shots at Tyson when he was depressed and obese.

some of you guys have super short memories. Or selective memory. You also wanna learn a bit about British wit and banter.

How on earth you didn’t sense this at the time of fury making the comment is beyond me. Some people really take everything said literally.

Your looking into something that isn’t there.

I know a fair bit about British banter, being British. Let's agree that there was nothing witty about Fury's comments, so wit is no excuse.

Nor is banter a justification for completely contradicting oneself.

I also remember when Fury was fat, depressed and scared he might have to face up to the BBBofC for his positive drug test, how Joshua offered him some blunt advice of "Get fit you fat fuck." Fury should be thanking him for the tough love.

If your point is that Fury's comments shouldn't be taken at face value: I agree. As I said before, I will no longer put any stock into anything he has to say, because what comes out of his mouth is random shlt that I doubt even he himself believes most of the time.

[alexguiness]

Joshua should take the millions he has earned and retire. He will lose again in and have no excuses whatsoever to counter the fact that he is actually pretty limited in terms of natural ability or talent.

Joshua and Hearn had a good run with the AJ show and fair enough, but thats over now.

Stay humble Anthony.