Comments Thread For: Arum Rooting For Usyk, Looks Forward To Negotiating Undisputed Title Bout 'In-House', Without Hearn

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Fury vs Wilder 2 wasn't even a competitive fight. It was maybe the easiest win of Fury's entire career. Why did he need to "step up to the plate" and fight Wilder again, immediately, instead of unifying with AJ?

If Usyk annihilates AJ in their rematch, will you applaud them for "stepping up to the plate" if they immediately decide to fight each other for a third time, instead of unifying with the winner of Fury/ Whyte?

Did you forget it was court ordered?

Whichever way you wanna spin it, there were 3 top HW’s, 2 fought 3 times, the other fought neither. It’s speaks for itself.

Yeah I definitely give AJ credit for taking the rematch and not ducking Usyk, I gave him credit for taking that fight the first time round too. I always give credit where it’s due cause I’m not a bias little fanboy with an agenda like yourself.

I think the point your missing though is there’s no promotional conflict in making Usyk vs AJ. Arum, Haymon and Hearn all seem to have problems working together, yet Arum and Haymon put their differences aside three times in order to make a great fight between two of the top three HW’s, so have proven they are willing to work together. Hearn on the other hand, had proven incapable of working with either Haymon or Arum to make a fight between two of the top three HW’s. As I said, whichever way you wanna spin it those are the facts. It’s clear who the problem is.

[Oldskoolg]

Did you forget it was court ordered?

Whichever way you wanna spin it, there were 3 top HW’s, 2 fought 3 times, the other fought neither. It’s speaks for itself.

Yeah I definitely give AJ credit for taking the rematch and not ducking Usyk, I gave him credit for taking that fight the first time round too. I always give credit where it’s due cause I’m not a bias little fanboy with an agenda like yourself.

I think the point your missing though is there’s no promotional conflict in making Usyk vs AJ. Arum, Haymon and Hearn all seem to have problems working together, yet Arum and Haymon put their differences aside three times in order to make a great fight between two of the top three HW’s, so have proven they are willing to work together. Hearn on the other hand, had proven incapable of working with either Haymon or Arum to make a fight between two of the top three HW’s. As I said, whichever way you wanna spin it those are the facts. It’s clear who the problem is.

Game, set, and match

[Toffee]

The Undisputed fight was never going to be made this time as there were just too many parties to get aligned. 4 fighters, 4 boxing orgs, and multiple broadcasters.

But that said, they didn't even get Usyk and Fury aligned. What makes them think it will be easy next time?

Whereas Fury and Joshua actually did agree terms according to the promoters.

[Toffee]

. Hearn on the other hand, had proven incapable of working with either Haymon or Arum to make a fight between two of the top three HW’s. As I said, whichever way you wanna spin it those are the facts. It’s clear who the problem is.

Don't Warren, Hearn and Arum all agree that terms were sorted for AJ/Fury last year?

So they can work together.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Don't Warren, Hearn and Arum all agree that terms were sorted for AJ/Fury last year?

So they can work together.

The fight never happened.

Whichever way you Hearn fans wanna spin it:

Arum and Hearn failed to deliver Fury-AJ.

Haymon and Hearn failed to deliver Wilder-AJ.

Yet Haymon and Arum successfully delivered Fury-Wilder three separate times.

It is what it is…

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Arum is on a roll at the moment, nobody is safe!!

[Toffee]

The fight never happened.

Whichever way you Hearn fans wanna spin it:

Arum and Hearn failed to deliver Fury-AJ.

Haymon and Hearn failed to deliver Wilder-AJ.

Yet Haymon and Arum successfully delivered Fury-Wilder three separate times.

It is what it is…

It was it was. Non-Unification fights. A long reigning champion without a credible win targeting the lineal champion returning from oblivion. There are reasons that fights happen and Fury/Wilder was more to do with the circumstance than it was to do with the promoters being good sports.

Undisputed fights are historically hard to make. That's why we've had so few undisputed champions in the four belt era.

Promoters want money. It's what they're in it for. And fighters don't fear fights. Of course they can work together when the time is right.

AJ/Wilder did seem to get a bit personal but this is Arum claiming he can't negotiate with Hearn... when the last time they tried they claim they actually reached an agreement for the biggest fight in a long time.

He's sucking you into the promoter wars. It makes press. That's why he's saying it.

[Cypocryphy]

"Usyk is managed by Egis Klimas, who, in addition to former undisputed lightweight champion Vasiliy Lomachenko, a close friend of Usyk’s, has a slew of fighters signed with Arum’s Top Rank. Joshua is backed by rival promoter Eddie Hearn, whom Arum has consistently butted heads with over the years.

Usyk is technically signed to Hearn’s Matchroom, but it is not clear when their deal expires. Should the Ukrainian beat Joshua again, Arum seems to believe that Hearn would be out of the picture, paving way for negotiations for the undisputed fight to occur ‘in-house.’

I believe this illustrates why we won't probably see Lomachenko vs. Haney, and Fury vs. Joshua! Arum (and Warren) seem to have a lot of hatred for Eddie Hearn!

Yeah. I don't know what the deal is between Arum and Hearn, but it hurts the sport. They need to cut the ****. That being said, Haney isn't tied to Hearn. He's with Devin Haney Promotions, so it shouldn't be a problem. Emphasis on "shouldn't." The way Haney moves, the dude ducks by pricing himself out all the time, then takes peanuts to fight little guys or old men. I'm getting sick of Hype-job Haney.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

It was it was. Non-Unification fights. A long reigning champion without a credible win targeting the lineal champion returning from oblivion. There are reasons that fights happen and Fury/Wilder was more to do with the circumstance than it was to do with the promoters being good sports.

Undisputed fights are historically hard to make. That's why we've had so few undisputed champions in the four belt era.

Promoters want money. It's what they're in it for. And fighters don't fear fights. Of course they can work together when the time is right.

AJ/Wilder did seem to get a bit personal but this is Arum claiming he can't negotiate with Hearn... when the last time they tried they claim they actually reached an agreement for the biggest fight in a long time.

He's sucking you into the promoter wars. It makes press. That's why he's saying it.

Whichever way you wanna spin it the facts remain the same.

Two fighters have fought each other, one hasn’t.

Two promoters have delivered, one hasn’t.

[DaNeutral.]

The fight never happened.

Whichever way you Hearn fans wanna spin it:

Arum and Hearn failed to deliver Fury-AJ.

Haymon and Hearn failed to deliver Wilder-AJ.

Yet Haymon and Arum successfully delivered Fury-Wilder three separate times.

It is what it is…

Haymon failed to deliver Wilder v AJ. Winkle acknowledged the DAZN offer was substantial and a good one but they refused it as they would rather the fight on a PBC PPV so it could be shown to millions of Americans. They then made no offers at all.

Arum and Warren failed to deliver Joshua v Fury. Hearn put together a package that was substantial and accepted but unfortunately Arum had forgot to mention they were only pretending to want it and was going to face Wilder again.

Just cuz Arum and Haymon refused to put their fighters in with Joshua whilst both acknowledging the offers from AJ side were good and substantial don't make it Hearns fault the fights didn't happen.

Your a salty little sausage, you blaming Hearn for anything and everything. They turning down offers to face Joshua, not countering with an offer or making no attempt to make the fight themselves, only one side is even trying.