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  • #81
    I have suggested, that Fury & Wilder could of acted like a smoke screen for each other 'It has been a very long time since Fury fought another top Heavyweight other than Wilder'.

    The last time Tyson Fury fought a half decent heavyweight was Ottin Wallin back in 2019 'And Fury did not look invincible in that fight, he was pushed and busted up real good'.

    Nobody really knows how good this Kronk Fury is, until he faces some of these other top heavyweights.

    This theory of mine, is just a theory. I would not try and prove it very strongly.

    Because I actually think Tyson Fury, will beat Dillian Whyte. But the fight will most likely be a mess, and completely chaotic 'Mainly because this is the kind of action Kronk Fury drags fighters into'.

    I still see people continuing to bring up, Tyson Fury past fights from when he was training under Peter Fury 'From when he was The Riddler'.

    Fury's hardcore fans, seem not to understand that 'The Riddler' is not here anymore. Tyson Fury does not want to train in the manner, which is required for him to fight with his old Riddler style.

    The Riddler beats Dillian Whyte rather easy, over 12 rounds. But Kronk Fury is going to be in a real fight. And if Wilder can land on Fury, then Whyte who's punches are a little more refined 'Is going to land on Fury'.

    For Whyte the jab is the key to this fight. Tyson Fury does currently have the best jab in the heavyweight division, Deontay Wilder's jab is ranked at number 2 'But then in 3rd place on performance, this is where I rank Whyte's Jab'.

    Reason why I think the jab is important for Whyte, is because? The longer this fight goes, the more I think the fight may come to Fury. But again, this is hard to gauge 'How is Fury's endurance going to look up against these other heavyweights?'

    And I just think a solid jab, can make the rounds easier for a fighter. Fury's jab is good, but it does not seem to be this monumental task to overcome 'Like a peak Wladimir Kiltschko's or Lennox Lewis's jab'.

    Whenever Tyson Fury is in a fight, with somebody who can also jab 'Most of the time, fighters can compete'. Steve 'USS' Cunningham was jabbing with Fury, no problem.









    Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 02-01-2022, 05:42 PM.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post
      I have suggested, that Fury & Wilder could of acted like a smoke screen for each other 'It has been a very long time since Fury fought another top Heavyweight other than Wilder'.

      The last time Tyson Fury fought a half decent heavyweight was Ottin Wallin back in 2019 'And Fury did not look invincible in that fight, he was pushed and busted up real good'.

      Nobody really knows how good this Kronk Fury is, until he faces some of these other top heavyweights.

      This theory of mine, is just a theory. I would not try and prove it very strongly.

      Because I actually think Tyson Fury, will beat Dillian Whyte. But the fight will most likely be a mess, and completely chaotic 'Mainly because this is the kind of action Kronk Fury drags fighters into'.

      I still see people continuing to bring up, Tyson Fury past fights from when he was training under Peter Fury 'From when he was The Riddler'.

      Fury's hardcore fans, seem not to understand that 'The Riddler' is not here anymore. Tyson Fury does not want to train in the manner, which is required for him to fight with his old Riddler style.

      The Riddler beats Dillian Whyte rather easy, over 12 rounds. But Kronk Fury is going to be in a real fight. And if Wilder can land on Fury, then Whyte who's punches are a little more refined 'Is going to land on Fury'.

      For Whyte the jab is the key to this fight. Tyson Fury does currently have the best jab in the heavyweight division, Deontay Wilder's jab is ranked at number 2 'But then in 3rd place on performance, this is where I rank Whyte's Jab'.

      Reason why I think the jab is important for Whyte, is because? The longer this fight goes, the more I think the fight may come to Fury. But again, this is hard to gauge 'How is Fury's endurance going to look up against these other heavyweights?'

      And I just think a solid jab, can make the rounds easier for a fighter. Fury's jab is good, but it does not seem to be this monumental task to overcome 'Like a peak Wladimir Kiltschko's or Lennox Lewis's jab'.

      Whenever Tyson Fury is in a fight, with somebody who can also jab 'Most of the time, fighters can compete'. Steve 'USS' Cunningham was jabbing with Fury, no problem.








      everything you wrote is easily negated by Whytes awful stamina after 5-8 rds tops..He doesn't have Wilders heart,nor Wilders chin imo at least. Fury v Wallin was not a close fight,Wallin just got lucky & Fury still whooped him which is why they didn't stop it(& remember Whyte avoided Wallin last min because he knew he was a huge threat)

      We'll see which of us is right,but I don't see Whyte standing a chance because Fury will make him quit,Fury is just operating at a higher level imo(even though I'm the 1st to say he looked bad v Wilder 3)
      Last edited by kushking; 02-01-2022, 06:20 PM.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by kushking View Post

        everything you wrote is easily negated by Whytes awful stamina after 5-8 rds tops..He doesn't have Wilders heart,nor Wilders chin imo at least. Fury v Wallin was not a close fight,Wallin just got lucky & Fury still whooped him which is why they didn't stop it(& remember Whyte avoided Wallin last min because he knew he was a huge threat)

        We'll see which of us is right,but I don't see Whyte standing a chance because Fury will make him quit,Fury is just operating at a higher level imo(even though I'm the 1st to say he looked bad v Wilder 3)
        Fury was busted up real good vs Wallin, it looked like a close fight to me. Sometimes it is best to watch certain fights on mute, maybe you got carried away with the commentating.

        Whyte does not have the best stamina, that is why? His jab is very important for him in this fight 'Because as the rounds progress, it will make things easier for him'.

        Listen people need to pipe down about Wallin, nobody is afraid of Wallin in the heavyweight division 'And Whyte was not avoiding him, Whyte did not even have to face him'.

        Tyson Fury does not use movement anymore, and fighters can find him 'That is why, I think now is the best time for Whyte to face Fury stylistically'.

        I believe that Tyson Fury will win, but it is not going to be a easy fight 'It will be a struggle'.
        Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 02-01-2022, 06:40 PM.
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        • #84
          Originally posted by Marchegiano View Post

          You mean like Chisora did....in the first round....


          Just Fury-Chisora III.
          Huh , what did Chisora do??

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          • #85
            Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post
            I have suggested, that Fury & Wilder could of acted like a smoke screen for each other 'It has been a very long time since Fury fought another top Heavyweight other than Wilder'.

            The last time Tyson Fury fought a half decent heavyweight was Ottin Wallin back in 2019 'And Fury did not look invincible in that fight, he was pushed and busted up real good'.

            Nobody really knows how good this Kronk Fury is, until he faces some of these other top heavyweights.

            This theory of mine, is just a theory. I would not try and prove it very strongly.

            Because I actually think Tyson Fury, will beat Dillian Whyte. But the fight will most likely be a mess, and completely chaotic 'Mainly because this is the kind of action Kronk Fury drags fighters into'.

            I still see people continuing to bring up, Tyson Fury past fights from when he was training under Peter Fury 'From when he was The Riddler'.

            Fury's hardcore fans, seem not to understand that 'The Riddler' is not here anymore. Tyson Fury does not want to train in the manner, which is required for him to fight with his old Riddler style.

            The Riddler beats Dillian Whyte rather easy, over 12 rounds. But Kronk Fury is going to be in a real fight. And if Wilder can land on Fury, then Whyte who's punches are a little more refined 'Is going to land on Fury'.

            For Whyte the jab is the key to this fight. Tyson Fury does currently have the best jab in the heavyweight division, Deontay Wilder's jab is ranked at number 2 'But then in 3rd place on performance, this is where I rank Whyte's Jab'.

            Reason why I think the jab is important for Whyte, is because? The longer this fight goes, the more I think the fight may come to Fury. But again, this is hard to gauge 'How is Fury's endurance going to look up against these other heavyweights?'

            And I just think a solid jab, can make the rounds easier for a fighter. Fury's jab is good, but it does not seem to be this monumental task to overcome 'Like a peak Wladimir Kiltschko's or Lennox Lewis's jab'.

            Whenever Tyson Fury is in a fight, with somebody who can also jab 'Most of the time, fighters can compete'. Steve 'USS' Cunningham was jabbing with Fury, no problem.








            Couple of assertions here have to be questioned... Wallin Busted Fury up real good? How do you figure that? Fury was cut and Wallin could do nothing much to him after that cut.

            Fury's endurance has never been an issue... He has great endurance.

            Fury's jab is monumental because of the reach behind it. I agree he throws it ackwardly as hell but Fury has the timing down which makes the jab very hard to deal with.

            Your last statement about a competing jab... Its just kind of not strong... I mean you qualify it immediately " Most of the time" but where do you actually see a guage of jabbing as a viable way to beat Fury?

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            • #86
              Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post
              I have suggested, that Fury & Wilder could of acted like a smoke screen for each other 'It has been a very long time since Fury fought another top Heavyweight other than Wilder'.

              The last time Tyson Fury fought a half decent heavyweight was Ottin Wallin back in 2019 'And Fury did not look invincible in that fight, he was pushed and busted up real good'.

              Nobody really knows how good this Kronk Fury is, until he faces some of these other top heavyweights.

              This theory of mine, is just a theory. I would not try and prove it very strongly.

              Because I actually think Tyson Fury, will beat Dillian Whyte. But the fight will most likely be a mess, and completely chaotic 'Mainly because this is the kind of action Kronk Fury drags fighters into'.

              I still see people continuing to bring up, Tyson Fury past fights from when he was training under Peter Fury 'From when he was The Riddler'.

              Fury's hardcore fans, seem not to understand that 'The Riddler' is not here anymore. Tyson Fury does not want to train in the manner, which is required for him to fight with his old Riddler style.

              The Riddler beats Dillian Whyte rather easy, over 12 rounds. But Kronk Fury is going to be in a real fight. And if Wilder can land on Fury, then Whyte who's punches are a little more refined 'Is going to land on Fury'.

              For Whyte the jab is the key to this fight. Tyson Fury does currently have the best jab in the heavyweight division, Deontay Wilder's jab is ranked at number 2 'But then in 3rd place on performance, this is where I rank Whyte's Jab'.

              Reason why I think the jab is important for Whyte, is because? The longer this fight goes, the more I think the fight may come to Fury. But again, this is hard to gauge 'How is Fury's endurance going to look up against these other heavyweights?'

              And I just think a solid jab, can make the rounds easier for a fighter. Fury's jab is good, but it does not seem to be this monumental task to overcome 'Like a peak Wladimir Kiltschko's or Lennox Lewis's jab'.

              Whenever Tyson Fury is in a fight, with somebody who can also jab 'Most of the time, fighters can compete'. Steve 'USS' Cunningham was jabbing with Fury, no problem. Whytes going to force him into a firefight and knock him out .








              In short Fury tries to avoid fighters who come to win and throw punches back at him . He’s going to be exposed badly here and it won’t be because he is using this or that style , Whytes got his number he’s going to end Furys reign before it even started .

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              • #87
                Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post

                Fury was busted up real good vs Wallin, it looked like a close fight to me. Sometimes it is best to watch certain fights on mute, maybe you got carried away with the commentating.

                Whyte does not have the best stamina, that is why? His jab is very important for him in this fight 'Because as the rounds progress, it will make things easier for him'.

                Listen people need to pipe down about Wallin, nobody is afraid of Wallin in the heavyweight division 'And Whyte was not avoiding him, Whyte did not even have to face him'.

                Tyson Fury does not use movement anymore, and fighters can find him 'That is why, I think now is the best time for Whyte to face Fury stylistically'.

                I believe that Tyson Fury will win, but it is not going to be a easy fight 'It will be a struggle'.
                I showed people at my house that fight who didn’t know who Wallin was and they thought Fury lost that fight . The narrative is it was an easy fight for Fury even though he had struggled tokeep Otto off him all busted up and almost got knocked out in the last round .

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by Stuart Chandler View Post

                  I showed people at my house that fight who didn’t know who Wallin was and they thought Fury lost that fight . The narrative is it was an easy fight for Fury even though he had struggled tokeep Otto off him all busted up and almost got knocked out in the last round .
                  Otto lost that fight by going defensive and just trying to pot shot the cut.

                  When he went for Fury again in the last round he was well on top again.

                  Furry got away with one massively there. He was so far below his best.

                  Which is why I want to see him meet mandatories. He's a great fighter, but lifting yourself for massive challenges is only part of what a champion does.
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                  • #89
                    Whyte's going to pay almost every time he steps into Fury's firing range, or when he misses with a jab, misses with a left hook, etc.

                    His stamina isn't so good, and at some point I can see Fury mauling him and cracking him with an uppercut, then following with a big right hook.

                    Fury isn't really a knockout artist, but his right hook is a lot more powerful than he's given credit for. When he lands that square on the side of Dillian's head it's pretty much game over.

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                    • #90
                      What are you talking about, even if the referee did give Wilder an extended count, Wilder got up and won the fight.
                      Whyte was knocked out cold, their wasn't even a need to count in his fight many thought that he was a ring fatality.
                      It is incredible to me how 2 people can watch the same fight, and come away with 2 totally different views of what transpired.
                      No matter how good of a fighter one is, when you get knocked out cold like Whyte did against Povetkin there is a problem.

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