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  • QueensburyRules
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    #41
    Originally posted by BodyBagz
    Has GGG ever taken a risk in his life ?
    - - Offered l'l SissyBoyFloydy 154 title challenge, 155 title challenge, and Wart a 164 title challenge, a 10lb range of title challenges with no takers.

    U ever get rid of U forum lisp?

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    • Cypocryphy
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      #42
      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

      Why doesn't the public and the industry apply pressure to get a Beterbiev vs Bivol unification?
      Hey, that'd be great. But you know how people in the US are about Russian fighters; they almost boycott them for whatever reason. You've got the low men on the totem pole, which is first fighters from Africa (who always get screwed and is disgusting), then right above them and tied are fighters from Russia (the old Soviet Block) and Cuban's (anti-communism spilling over into the sport). Then right above them are boxers from South America. Look at Conceciao.

      So my point is that there's not a lot of public interest outside hardcore boxing fans, and Arum said as much. Although, part of me is a little skeptical because Bivol is with Matchroom, and that's like the kiss of death for a fight happening. Bob is much more likely to work with Haymon than he is with Eddie. So there's that too.

      I'd love to see that fight.

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        #43
        Originally posted by Shadoww702

        I think you are a fkn IDIOT..

        Also ABEL Sanchez said Canelo WON!

        So go CRY some more!!!! Fkn GROWN ass man crying like A Bi@tch...

        Cry some more!
        Jesus Christ! Look at you!! Emotional like a dumb *****. You want to see something really funny? You want to see why you're a complete moron on this topic? I'll show you why. The whole world disagrees with you, check it:



        Here’s how the scores breakdown:

        Harold Lederman (HBO Sports): 116-112 Golovkin

        Brian Campbell (CBS sports): 116-112 Golovkin

        Dan Rafael (ESPN): 114-114 draw

        Stephen A. Smith (ESPN): Golovkin won

        Arash Markazi (ESPN): 114-114 draw

        Brett Okamoto (ESPN): 114-114 draw

        Teddy Atlas – Golovkin won

        Salvador Rodríguez (ESPN Mexico): 114-114 draw

        Jorge Eduardo Sánchez (ESPN Deportes): 114-114 draw

        David Faitelson (ESPN Deportes): Golovkin won

        Eduardo Lamazón (Televisa): 116-112 Golovkin

        Gareth A Davies (The Telegraph): 116-112 Golovkin

        Josh Peter (USA Today): 115-113 Golovkin

        Sports Illustrated: 114-114 draw
        Skip Bayless (Fox Sports 1): Golovkin won

        Dylan Hernandez (LA Times): 115-113 Golovkin

        Lance Pugmire (LA Times): 114-114 draw

        Chris Mannix (Yahoo! Sports): 115-113 Golovkin

        Kevin Iole (Yahoo! Sports): 114-114 draw

        The Guardian: 116-112 Golovkin

        Joe DePaolo (Washington Post): 115-113 Golovkin

        Mike Coppinger (Ring Magazine): 114-114 draw

        Douglass Fischer (Ring Magazine): 114-114 draw

        Mike Baca II (Ring Magazine and Undisputed Champion Network): 115-113 Golovkin

        Mike Costello (BBC): 115-113 Golovkin

        Steve Bunce (BBC): 114-114 draw

        Al Bernstein (Showtime Sports): Golovkin won

        Barry Jones (BT Sport): 116-112 Golovkin

        Sherdog.com: 116-112 Golovkin

        Jai Bednall (news.com.au): 115-113 Golovkin

        Brian Mazique (Forbes): 114-114 draw

        Adam Abramowitz (Ring Magazine and SN Boxing): 115-113 Golovkin

        The Associated Press: 114-114 draw

        Bill Simmons (HBO and The Ringer): 114-114 draw

        Steven Muehlhausen (Sporting News): 116-112 Golovkin

        Andreas Hale (Sporting News): Golovkin won

        Boxing Monthly: Canelo won

        Michael Montero (MonteroOnBoxing): 115-113 Golovkin

        Matt Christie (Boxing News): 115-114 Golovkin

        George Willis (New York Post): 114-114 draw

        Gary Melo (SportsNet Canada): Golovkin won

        Phil Jay (WBN – World Boxing News): 115-113 Golovkin

        Jeff Powell (Daily Mail): 116-113 Golovkin

        Marcos Villegas (Fight Hub TV): 114-114 draw

        Michelle Rosado (Raging Babe): 115-113 Canelo

        Michelle Joy Phelps: 115-113 Golovkin

        Lennox Lewis: Golovkin won by 2 rounds

        Michael Woods (NYFights.com): two point edge for Golovkin

        Dieter Kurtenbach (San Jose Mercury News and the East Bay Times): Golovkin won by 3 rounds

        Jesse Granger (Las Vegas Sun): 115-113 Golovkin

        Jerry Izenberg (The NJ Advance Media): 115-113 Golovkin

        TOTAL:

        Golovkin 33 / Draw 16 / Canelo 2 (65%)

        Average fan scorecard (1773 fans): 116-113 Golovkin

        #NEVERFORGET

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          #44
          Originally posted by Cypocryphy

          Jesus Christ! Look at you!! Emotional like a dumb *****. You want to see something really funny? You want to see why you're a complete moron on this topic? I'll show you why. The whole world disagrees with you, check it:



          Here’s how the scores breakdown:

          Harold Lederman (HBO Sports): 116-112 Golovkin

          Brian Campbell (CBS sports): 116-112 Golovkin

          Dan Rafael (ESPN): 114-114 draw

          Stephen A. Smith (ESPN): Golovkin won

          Arash Markazi (ESPN): 114-114 draw

          Brett Okamoto (ESPN): 114-114 draw

          Teddy Atlas – Golovkin won

          Salvador Rodríguez (ESPN Mexico): 114-114 draw

          Jorge Eduardo Sánchez (ESPN Deportes): 114-114 draw

          David Faitelson (ESPN Deportes): Golovkin won

          Eduardo Lamazón (Televisa): 116-112 Golovkin

          Gareth A Davies (The Telegraph): 116-112 Golovkin

          Josh Peter (USA Today): 115-113 Golovkin

          Sports Illustrated: 114-114 draw
          Skip Bayless (Fox Sports 1): Golovkin won

          Dylan Hernandez (LA Times): 115-113 Golovkin

          Lance Pugmire (LA Times): 114-114 draw

          Chris Mannix (Yahoo! Sports): 115-113 Golovkin

          Kevin Iole (Yahoo! Sports): 114-114 draw

          The Guardian: 116-112 Golovkin

          Joe DePaolo (Washington Post): 115-113 Golovkin

          Mike Coppinger (Ring Magazine): 114-114 draw

          Douglass Fischer (Ring Magazine): 114-114 draw

          Mike Baca II (Ring Magazine and Undisputed Champion Network): 115-113 Golovkin

          Mike Costello (BBC): 115-113 Golovkin

          Steve Bunce (BBC): 114-114 draw

          Al Bernstein (Showtime Sports): Golovkin won

          Barry Jones (BT Sport): 116-112 Golovkin

          Sherdog.com: 116-112 Golovkin

          Jai Bednall (news.com.au): 115-113 Golovkin

          Brian Mazique (Forbes): 114-114 draw

          Adam Abramowitz (Ring Magazine and SN Boxing): 115-113 Golovkin

          The Associated Press: 114-114 draw

          Bill Simmons (HBO and The Ringer): 114-114 draw

          Steven Muehlhausen (Sporting News): 116-112 Golovkin

          Andreas Hale (Sporting News): Golovkin won

          Boxing Monthly: Canelo won

          Michael Montero (MonteroOnBoxing): 115-113 Golovkin

          Matt Christie (Boxing News): 115-114 Golovkin

          George Willis (New York Post): 114-114 draw

          Gary Melo (SportsNet Canada): Golovkin won

          Phil Jay (WBN – World Boxing News): 115-113 Golovkin

          Jeff Powell (Daily Mail): 116-113 Golovkin

          Marcos Villegas (Fight Hub TV): 114-114 draw

          Michelle Rosado (Raging Babe): 115-113 Canelo

          Michelle Joy Phelps: 115-113 Golovkin

          Lennox Lewis: Golovkin won by 2 rounds

          Michael Woods (NYFights.com): two point edge for Golovkin

          Dieter Kurtenbach (San Jose Mercury News and the East Bay Times): Golovkin won by 3 rounds

          Jesse Granger (Las Vegas Sun): 115-113 Golovkin

          Jerry Izenberg (The NJ Advance Media): 115-113 Golovkin

          TOTAL:

          Golovkin 33 / Draw 16 / Canelo 2 (65%)

          Average fan scorecard (1773 fans): 116-113 Golovkin

          #NEVERFORGET
          And NOT one ever boxed before or trained.... Now look up Abel Sanchez, Charlo, Spence, Foreman, RJJ and a BUNCH of other who Clowned ggg for Running his mouth as much as he did in the RING!!!

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            #45
            I also see a lot of DRAWS in that list IDIOT!

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              #46
              I see a LOT of 115-113??? WOW! 1 FKN round and YOU are SCREAMING robbery??? GtFOhere CLOWN!!!

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              • Cypocryphy
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                #47
                Originally posted by Shadoww702

                And NOT one ever boxed before or trained.... Now look up Abel Sanchez, Charlo, Spence, Foreman, RJJ and a BUNCH of other who Clowned ggg for Running his mouth as much as he did in the RING!!!
                Abel thought the fight was a draw, not that Canelo won. RJJ had it a draw. Spence didn't say anything other than he thought GGG should have fought more "Mexican style." Whatever that means. He also said that he would have beat Canelo if it were him. So I think he doesn't know WTF he's talking about.

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                • STREET CLEANER
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                  #48
                  They are weight classes for a reason. Most great fighters loose when they go up in weight. They no longer hit home runs at that weight class so they really have to show their skills off.

                  If Canelo doesn't fight Makabu it is duck, if he don't fight Benavides its a duck and if he does't fight Charlo it is duck even if he is fighting one of those named fighters. Once he beats them then it was a cherry pick or they were no good.

                  Benavides is his own worst enemy. He lost his title due to drugs and failing at the scales, he has no one to blame but himself. It is not like he is fighting top fighters to make a case of himself.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Cypocryphy

                    Jesus Christ! Look at you!! Emotional like a dumb *****. You want to see something really funny? You want to see why you're a complete moron on this topic? I'll show you why. The whole world disagrees with you, check it:



                    Here’s how the scores breakdown:

                    Harold Lederman (HBO Sports): 116-112 Golovkin

                    Brian Campbell (CBS sports): 116-112 Golovkin

                    Dan Rafael (ESPN): 114-114 draw

                    Stephen A. Smith (ESPN): Golovkin won

                    Arash Markazi (ESPN): 114-114 draw

                    Brett Okamoto (ESPN): 114-114 draw

                    Teddy Atlas – Golovkin won

                    Salvador Rodríguez (ESPN Mexico): 114-114 draw

                    Jorge Eduardo Sánchez (ESPN Deportes): 114-114 draw

                    David Faitelson (ESPN Deportes): Golovkin won

                    Eduardo Lamazón (Televisa): 116-112 Golovkin

                    Gareth A Davies (The Telegraph): 116-112 Golovkin

                    Josh Peter (USA Today): 115-113 Golovkin

                    Sports Illustrated: 114-114 draw
                    Skip Bayless (Fox Sports 1): Golovkin won

                    Dylan Hernandez (LA Times): 115-113 Golovkin

                    Lance Pugmire (LA Times): 114-114 draw

                    Chris Mannix (Yahoo! Sports): 115-113 Golovkin

                    Kevin Iole (Yahoo! Sports): 114-114 draw

                    The Guardian: 116-112 Golovkin

                    Joe DePaolo (Washington Post): 115-113 Golovkin

                    Mike Coppinger (Ring Magazine): 114-114 draw

                    Douglass Fischer (Ring Magazine): 114-114 draw

                    Mike Baca II (Ring Magazine and Undisputed Champion Network): 115-113 Golovkin

                    Mike Costello (BBC): 115-113 Golovkin

                    Steve Bunce (BBC): 114-114 draw

                    Al Bernstein (Showtime Sports): Golovkin won

                    Barry Jones (BT Sport): 116-112 Golovkin

                    Sherdog.com: 116-112 Golovkin

                    Jai Bednall (news.com.au): 115-113 Golovkin

                    Brian Mazique (Forbes): 114-114 draw

                    Adam Abramowitz (Ring Magazine and SN Boxing): 115-113 Golovkin

                    The Associated Press: 114-114 draw

                    Bill Simmons (HBO and The Ringer): 114-114 draw

                    Steven Muehlhausen (Sporting News): 116-112 Golovkin

                    Andreas Hale (Sporting News): Golovkin won

                    Boxing Monthly: Canelo won

                    Michael Montero (MonteroOnBoxing): 115-113 Golovkin

                    Matt Christie (Boxing News): 115-114 Golovkin

                    George Willis (New York Post): 114-114 draw

                    Gary Melo (SportsNet Canada): Golovkin won

                    Phil Jay (WBN – World Boxing News): 115-113 Golovkin

                    Jeff Powell (Daily Mail): 116-113 Golovkin

                    Marcos Villegas (Fight Hub TV): 114-114 draw

                    Michelle Rosado (Raging Babe): 115-113 Canelo

                    Michelle Joy Phelps: 115-113 Golovkin

                    Lennox Lewis: Golovkin won by 2 rounds

                    Michael Woods (NYFights.com): two point edge for Golovkin

                    Dieter Kurtenbach (San Jose Mercury News and the East Bay Times): Golovkin won by 3 rounds

                    Jesse Granger (Las Vegas Sun): 115-113 Golovkin

                    Jerry Izenberg (The NJ Advance Media): 115-113 Golovkin

                    TOTAL:

                    Golovkin 33 / Draw 16 / Canelo 2 (65%)

                    Average fan scorecard (1773 fans): 116-113 Golovkin

                    #NEVERFORGET
                    IMO I thought GGG won both fights with the second one a lot closer that it could had gone either way. But it doesn't mean that Canelo didn't improve and nobody was able to hang with GGG the way Canelo did.

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                    • Cypocryphy
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by STREET CLEANER

                      IMO I thought GGG won both fights with the second one a lot closer that it could had gone either way. But it doesn't mean that Canelo didn't improve and nobody was able to hang with GGG the way Canelo did.
                      That's true. I think people assume I think Canelo is not a good boxer. That's definitely not true. But I also believe he's using PEDs to make himself even better than he already is. And after viewing both fights, and over the years, I have come to the conclusion that GGG fought better in the second fight than he did in the first.

                      The problem with the first fight is that Byrd's outrageous scorecard made it seem like a robbery. It was a robbery in that regard, but the second fight was an even better performance by Golovkin. Golovkin began using lateral movement and actually boxing in the second fight, and he actually hurt Canelo at least once if not twice. Over the years, I think people will see that Golovkin did even better in the second fight.

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