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  • KingGilgamesh
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    #101
    Originally posted by Monty Fisto

    Who is it biting in the ass?
    Dont be shocked if come halfway through 2022, Whyte and Fury have fought and Joshua still hasn't taken on Usyk.

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    • Toffee
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      #102
      Originally posted by KingGilgamesh

      Stop trying to wriggle out with semantics. A typo wont stop u from being full of ****. Joshua has a rematch clause for a mandatory challenger.
      Semantics? What semantics? I didn't point out a typo.

      You described the situation as Joshua insisting on (mandating) a rematch clause.

      That's not true. It was a mandatory fight. Joshua couldn't enforce a rematch clause.

      In a mandatory fight it's the challenger who sells his right to walk away after a win. Usyk did that.
      Last edited by Toffee; 01-28-2022, 08:50 AM.

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        #103
        Originally posted by 786


        Anyone believe this ****? Not very convincing.....I don't get what's funny because nothing has changed, AJ still has to rematch Usyk and Fury still has to fight Whyte even though this nonsense from both sides has now delayed all that. Not sure what's funny to Fury's camp, nothing has been achieved except for more delays.
        It's the classic moron's response.

        You didn't get what you want. You could be a bit embarrassed that you didn't get what you want.

        So you act like it was everyone else who looks ******. In the hope that people will ignore facts and believe your rubbish.

        I vaguely remember it in the playground. But Fury's a grown man!

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        • KingGilgamesh
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          #104
          Originally posted by Toffee

          Semantics? What semantics? I didn't point out a typo.

          You described the situation as Joshua insisting on (mandating) a rematch clause.

          That's not true. It was a mandatory fight. Joshua couldn't enforce a rematch clause.

          In a mandatory fight it's the challenger who sells his right to walk away after a win. Usyk did that.
          This is whats sad about Joshua's fans, you defend his horse**** to the point you embarrass yourselves. What now? We pretend as rematch clauses during mandatory challenges is a common occurence? Are we now going to pretend that Hearn offering it as a negotiation strategy says more about Usyk than it does about Hearn and Joshua's confidence in victory?

          Even now you're going to sit there and pretend as if Hearn clearly shopping Joshua's step aside somehow makes Fury look worse...even though Fury seems to be the one whose fight actually moved forward and the so called rematch, which was meant to take place in March, pretty much has had no announcement and its now pretty much February.

          You talk in these ridiculous riddles, just like Joshua funnily enough, because like him you're full of it. You won't sit there and address my point about Joshua shopping his rematch clause because you likely know you're full of it too.
          Last edited by KingGilgamesh; 01-28-2022, 09:11 AM.

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          • Toffee
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            #105
            Originally posted by KingGilgamesh

            This is whats sad about Joshua's fans, you defend his horse**** to the point you embarrass yourselves. What now? We pretend as rematch clauses during mandatory challenges is a common occurence? Are we now going to pretend that Hearn offering it as a negotiation strategy says more about Usyk than it does about Hearn and Joshua's confidence in victory?

            Even now you're going to sit there and pretend as if Hearn clearly shopping Joshua's step aside somehow makes Fury look worse...even though Fury seems to be the one whose fight actually moved forward and the so called rematch, which was meant to take place in March, pretty much has had no announcement and its now pretty much February.
            Mate, I just want to see fights. If Usyk talking a rematch clause is what it takes them good on him. Certainly Joshua didn't have any right to that - it was Usyk's deal. It's very simple to understand.

            For this 4 way deal, how has Joshua lost out? He's fighting the fight he has contracted.

            It seems like Whyte will get the fight he wanted. Albeit at a lower purse than he wanted but there's still some games to play there.

            It's Fury who isn't getting what he wanted. Never wanted Whyte, then wanted Usyk, then wanted an interim fight before Usyk while everyone else stands around, then was prepared to fight Whyte before Usyk with a promise of Joshua down the line.

            He's made all the running, and has been left with the fight he didn't want in the first place. And it didn't move forward. It quite literally got delayed.

            Purse bids in 4 hours. Let's see what happens!
            Last edited by Toffee; 01-28-2022, 09:16 AM.

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            • elfag
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              #106
              AJ could have just rematched Usyk by now and it would have been much faster.

              i mean *** they fought in september and now its 4 months later and no fight has been made for AJ, Usyk or Fury

              The rematch could be coming up in march and that would have still given them the standard 6 months between fights.

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                #107
                Originally posted by Toffee

                It's the classic moron's response.

                You didn't get what you want. You could be a bit embarrassed that you didn't get what you want.

                So you act like it was everyone else who looks ******. In the hope that people will ignore facts and believe your rubbish.

                I vaguely remember it in the playground. But Fury's a grown man!
                They look like high school girls , It’s a shame Parker going down this route he was once a serious fighter now still getting gift wins and declining fights and lying to get out of title eliminator ps is probably the end for him being Furys lackey .

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                • steeve steel
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by gooderz84
                  18 months ago the heavyweight landscape was pretty clear.

                  You know what I don't get... AJ Wilder (IN MY OPINION) outsells any Fury/ Whyte/ Usyk scrap. Why don't AJ and Wilder put a fight together and make champion bank? Wilder hasn't lost too much cred after his trilogy everyone knows he's a warrior now with a big heart and big Josh could use some kudos for taking a dangerous fight without a title on the line. Whilst making tens of millions of dollars each? For me it's a no brainer would love to know what everyone else thinks.
                  You are right, but nothing outsells Fury vs Joshua, so AJ not gonna risk it by getting KOed by Wilder.

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                  • Monty Fisto
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by KingGilgamesh

                    Dont be shocked if come halfway through 2022, Whyte and Fury have fought and Joshua still hasn't taken on Usyk.
                    I still don't see who you think the rematch clause is biting in the ass. Or how.

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                    • KingGilgamesh
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by Monty Fisto

                      I still don't see who you think the rematch clause is biting in the ass. Or how.
                      Because it is quite obvious at this point that Joshua has no intention of fighting Usyk anytime soon. And it's like anyone is paying him a step aside either. I feel a lack of a rematch clause would have allowed him to easily walk away abs build up his confidence and resume fighting the many up and comers on the heavyweight scene. Another emphatic loss to Usyk will have fundamental damage to his credibility and bargaining power. Especially if he loses in a similar fashion to how he lost in September.

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