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  • #81
    Originally posted by djtmal View Post

    Really thats all that matters in Floyd Boy world...

    Shane, Cotto, Manny, even Gatti and Oscar. They were all shopworn fighters by the time Floyd fought them.

    In Floyd boy world, as long as you can wheelchair them into the ring, they will give him full credit.
    Stop talking about Manny everything you have said applies to Manny, except Floyd was never beaten while Manny lost all the way through his career against guys Floyd toys with.

    Now leave poor Manny alone he didn't mean to lose so many fights but cherry-picking can only go so far.

    How many ATGs did Manny beat in their prime, 0 zilch none, how ironic is that in this thread lol.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by kushking View Post

      If you apply this standard for Floyd you have to apply it to everyone,but I agree completely that it shouldn't matter if an opponent wasn't at there all time best(because most fighters last only a very short window in that state,in many cases only in ppls mind because someone had 1 legendary performance & a bunch of cans,& they will remember it like they were god himself based on that tiny window.

      I rate it as,was the fighter a champion coming off big wins/was rated top 1-3 in division,& if so he should be construed as a good to great win depending on how much of a challenge the opponent was considered.

      (if a fighter goes up in weight that should get you extra pts legacy wise,if the opponent is at a natural disadvantage thdn that should cost you pts legacy wise.)
      The fighters going up in weight classes these days creates a illusion, especially in the lower weight classes. Canelo Alvarez moving up in weight classes, is in no way anything like what Evander Holyfield, David Haye and Oleksandr Uysk had to experience in body transformation and 'The dramatic change in competitive environment'.

      The day before weigh in rule, creates a illusion in the lower weight divisions.

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      • #83
        It’s not surprising to see a Manny fan hold it against Floyd that Manny, odh, and Shane all refused to fight Floyd when they were prime.

        Manny is coming off a loss to Ugas so many of his very worst fans like the TS are desperate to bring up old stuff because no one talks about Manny anymore.

        Is this really necessary in 2022?

        Wish the forum would get rid of cum gurgling losers like the TS who never contributes anything, logs on only to hate on Floyd and suck Manny’s ****, and doesn’t know anything about the sport.

        Has the TS or anyone like him ever thought The images of Manny having to be spoon fed after Ugas brutally beat him is karma for Manny fans always doing garbage like this?



        Last edited by The Big Dunn; 01-27-2022, 05:53 PM.

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        • #84
          No ATG has ever beaten another ATG fighter in their prime.

          They’re always too old, too young, too short, too injured, underrated, overrated, past prime, pre prime, robbed, weightbullied or PED bullied.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post

            The fighters going up in weight classes these days creates a illusion, especially in the lower weight classes. Canelo Alvarez moving up in weight classes, is in no way anything like what Evander Holyfield, David Haye and Oleksandr Uysk had to experience in body transformation and 'The dramatic change in competitive environment'.

            The day before weigh in rule, creates a illusion in the lower weight divisions.
            its more impressive than what those guys are doing. You can't say its not impressive the minute a guy who has T rex arms & is short af & started at jmw goes up to Lhw & beyond even & is fighting guys who have been there their entire lives(nobody on this site thought Canelo Would ever have the balls to fight "real smw champs like Callum they said").(Holyfield was never small,David Haye neither,but moreso than the other 2)

            When Usyk went up in weight,it was a 6'3" HW who used to boil down no longer Boiling down,& he faced 3 fighters who have tons of flaws & been kd/ko many times.

            You contradicted your own point
            Last edited by kushking; 01-27-2022, 07:06 PM.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
              It’s not surprising to see a Manny fan hold it against Floyd that Manny, odh, and Shane all refused to fight Floyd when they were prime.

              Manny is coming off a loss to Ugas so many of his very worst fans like the TS are desperate to bring up old stuff because no one talks about Manny anymore.

              Is this really necessary in 2022?

              Wish the forum would get rid of cum gurgling losers like the TS who never contributes anything, logs on only to hate on Floyd and suck Manny’s ****, and doesn’t know anything about the sport.

              Has the TS or anyone like him ever thought The images of Manny having to be spoon fed after Ugas brutally beat him is karma for Manny fans always doing garbage like this?


              Go get Floyd ready for the 100 lb Arabian Knight, or is it the Iron Sheik.

              Last edited by djtmal; 01-27-2022, 07:32 PM.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by Dakuwaqa View Post
                No ATG has ever beaten another ATG fighter in their prime.

                They’re always too old, too young, too short, too injured, underrated, overrated, past prime, pre prime, robbed, weightbullied or PED bullied.
                It became the norm when Floyd started cherrypicking his own fights.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                  It’s not surprising to see a Manny fan hold it against Floyd that Manny, odh, and Shane all refused to fight Floyd when they were prime.

                  Manny is coming off a loss to Ugas so many of his very worst fans like the TS are desperate to bring up old stuff because no one talks about Manny anymore.

                  Is this really necessary in 2022?

                  Wish the forum would get rid of cum gurgling losers like the TS who never contributes anything, logs on only to hate on Floyd and suck Manny’s ****, and doesn’t know anything about the sport.

                  Has the TS or anyone like him ever thought The images of Manny having to be spoon fed after Ugas brutally beat him is karma for Manny fans always doing garbage like this?


                  Lol......every forum I see Manny fans call Floyd fans every name in the book while acting like Manny walks on water. Then the response is Floyd fans calling Manny fans every name in the book while acting like Floyd walk on water.

                  Me as just a boxing fan never understood the hatred one side had for the other as both had great careers that not too many any history can hold a match to. Fact is they both beat a bunch of great names in the sport whether they were prime/too young or old.....those fighters got in the ring with the mission to win the fight. Respect to both of them.

                  Manny tried to beat the real undisputed champion and fail.......Father Time....taking a long layoff and attempting to defeat another world class fighter at the age of 42 is a crazy idea but it's what Manny do. Step to the challenge. To hear Floyd fans try to knock him for losing to a world champion like Ugas is hypocritical because we all know that Floyd up in his age chose to fight a man who had ZERO amateur & professional boxing experience. Followed it up with a bout with a kids who was half his size & then with a YouTuber......Manny still attempted to challenge himself until he couldn't do it no more. Got bullied by a much bigger Jeff Horn, then redeemed himself vs Mathysee & got a win vs a prime Keith Thurman only to call it quits after a Ugas loss.

                  Both had amazing careers and deserve to be respected by BOXING FANS, especially by a bunch of mfers who can't even win a mind fight let alone compete in the ring

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

                    Stop talking about Manny everything you have said applies to Manny, except Floyd was never beaten while Manny lost all the way through his career against guys Floyd toys with.

                    Now leave poor Manny alone he didn't mean to lose so many fights but cherry-picking can only go so far.

                    How many ATGs did Manny beat in their prime, 0 zilch none, how ironic is that in this thread lol.
                    Floyd is ducking the long awaited rematch with Logan Paul, to fight A 100 lb Arab.

                    How pathetic does it get man.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by djtmal View Post

                      Floyd is ducking the long awaited rematch with Logan Paul, to fight A 100 lb Arab.

                      How pathetic does it get man.
                      About as pathetic as you, everything you throw at Floyd applies to Manny that's how pathetic you are.

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