Is Roy Jones legendary mainly because he was able to rule from 160-HW?

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  • IronDanHamza
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    #11
    Originally posted by MisterDeclanCor
    Roy Jones is legendary mainly because he boxes like a cartoon. Not to disparage, he's deadly like, and his achevments are great, unifcation against fellow P4Per James Toney. You have to understand Toney was the other ridiculous matrix like fighter of that era, this all before jumping weight categories to nab a version of heavyweight title from John Ruiz. I don't know his career inside out, but the point I want to make is that what makes Jones so undeniably appealing is his attractive style. It's poetry in motion man, forget the stats.
    There’s nothing “matrix like” about James Toney.

    He was beaten soundly by unranked fighters multiple times and struggled badly or lost to fighters Roy Jones smashed to pieces.

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    • MisterDeclanCor
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      #12
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza

      There’s nothing “matrix like” about James Toney.

      He was beaten soundly by unranked fighters multiple times and struggled badly or lost to fighters Roy Jones smashed to pieces.
      This is a biased account. I remember you. You judge everything by records. Watch him move. You're not blind are you? Good boxing guys have good eyes, they can see it, and they can do it, a wee bit, AND YOU CAN'T!

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      • MisterDeclanCor
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        #13
        By the way, RJJ fought some mediocre fighters. You know that. Jones Toney was a good fight. Toney was a killer. A smooth, slick killer. With attitude. Back when we could understand what he was saying.

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        • MisterDeclanCor
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          #14
          He shoulder rolled better than anyone I can remember... His approach differed to Floyd's of course. Toney very easy on the eye. And he took chances. That was part of the attraction. Like Alex Higgins playing snooker.

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            #15
            Beating the hugging man John Ruiz hardly counts as ruling HW. And Jones didn’t do anything at Cruiser. At 175 and below + Ripped Fuel he was unstoppable though.

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            • BigDramaShow!
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              #16
              Rule? He didn't rule HW lol stop it. He cherrypicked the weakest Heavyweight in John Ruiz and ducked Lennox Lewis.

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              • PRINCEKOOL
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                #17
                I think Max Kellerman sums it up brilliantly here, there is a level above all the great active fighters you see today 'Roy Jones Junior was that level'.

                Fighters like Alvarez, Fury, Crawford, Spence and all the other champions today are not even on Mayweather's & Pacquiao's level.
                 

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                • hugh grant
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                  #18
                  Well he was the best and beat greats like Toney and bh and there was a time when people thought only Lennox Lewis and maybe another couple of heavyweights would beat him!
                  Have to take risks to be great

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                  • Oracle01
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                    #19
                    Anyone deny a prime Jones Stops little Ginger?

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                    • kushking
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by BigDramaShow!
                      Rule? He didn't rule HW lol stop it. He cherrypicked the weakest Heavyweight in John Ruiz and ducked Lennox Lewis.
                      I was waiting for someone to make this argument. He ruled between 160-hw simply because he was champ between 160-hw, by definition having a belt means you're considered a ruler of that org at that weight.

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