Comments Thread For: Hrgovic's Promoter Feels IBF Rankings Becoming a Mockery With Boxers Rejecting Eliminator

[P to the J]

WBA

WBC

IBF

WBO

C	Oleksandr Usyk (S) Trevor Bryan (R)	Tyson Fury Dillian Whyte (I)	Oleksandr Usyk	Oleksandr Usyk
1	Daniel Dubois	Deontay Wilder	vacant	Joe Joyce
2	Michael Hunter	Joe Joyce	Charles Martin	Joseph Parker
3	Robert Helenius	Andy Ruiz	Filip Hrgovic	Andy Ruiz
4	Hughie Fury	Joseph Parker	Joseph Parker	Anthony Joshua
5	Anthony Joshua	Frank Sánchez	Anthony Joshua	Frank Sánchez
6	Deontay Wilder	Luis Ortiz	Tony Yoka	Daniel Dubois
7	Agit Kabayel	Michael Hunter	Joe Joyce	Michael Hunter
8	Arslanbek Makhmudov	Agit Kabayel	Agit Kabayel	Zhilei Zhang
9	Zhan Kossobutskiy	Filip Hrgovic	Murat Gassiev	Evgeny Romanov
10	Martin Bakole	Arslanbek Makhmudov	Luis Ortiz	Demsey McKean

They are all ****.

Hunter ducked Hrgovic, second only to Dubois in the WBA, who, lost to Joyce, who is missing from the WBA.

Joshua at 5th? Under Hughie and Helenius? Crazy talk, don't hardly go to bat for AJ but that's nuts

Wilder is not the former x2 WBA champion, so less nuts, but still nuts.


Don't got much bitching for WBC, atm, Hrgovic should be higher. I'm a huge Wilder fan but how does it make sense to have a Silver champion second to a contender with no title? Hunter's ass need to fight someone before he's a top ten with his quak-n-waddle bull.


Good ol IBF though, now that's one ****ty rating board. I have no clue want hold Martin has on the IBF but dude's done been there, right there, having fought no one to get there, so many times just to lose the one important fight they ask him before his title shot. From Glazkov to now Martin's never really made sense. Parker's ****, beating up chisora over and over again shouldn't get you much. Joshua under two of his leftovers because he lost to usyk and they beat who? Oh Chisora and Washington. Yoka's done **** all and Joyce is too low.

WBO giving China a handy with that one. I don't care how many rate him, hunter shouldn't be there. There should be consequences to ducking elims. What's worse, Hrgovic should. Your career shouldn't be held up by ****ers ducking you and getting rated higher than you at the same time, wtf. Parker's **** ass is too high, hell, generally an underwhelming list of HWs tbh, they're all too high except the three or four names that should be there.

I didn't even mention that Bakole, McKean, etc, ain't done **** all while the WBA is the exclusive rating board that sees value in Joshua and Wilder. WBC thinks Makhmudov is a more proven HW than Joshua, while, IBF somehow think Ortiz has done more than Wilder.

All **** ratings

No the ****ing TBRB bull is no better Parker above Joyce? How? ****ing Chisora isn't it?

Wallin, he's done something since cutting Tyson. You know, against guys who are not rated.

Hunter instead of Hrgovic, but TBRB isn't corrupt doe. Their ratings are not for sale....I roll my eyes and wank in yer direction

Boxrec still has Chisora. What's he got to do, gather as many losses as most pros have fights? FFS. Not to mention, no ****ing way is Usyk more proven than Fury.

Ring actually has the best rating atm:


TYSON FURY
RING, WBC
COUNTRY: U.K.
31-0-1 (22 KOS)
WEEKS ON LIST: 163
1

OLEKSANDR USYK
IBF, WBA, WBO
COUNTRY: UKRAINE
19-0-0 (13 KOS)
WEEKS ON LIST: 31
2

ANTHONY JOSHUA
COUNTRY: U.K.
24-2-0 (22 KOS)
WEEKS ON LIST: 300
3

DEONTAY WILDER
COUNTRY: U.S.
42-2-1 (41 KOS)
WEEKS ON LIST: 401
4

DILLIAN WHYTE
COUNTRY: U.K.
28-2-0 (19 KOS)
WEEKS ON LIST: 241
5

JOSEPH PARKER
COUNTRY: NEW ZEALAND
30-2-0 (21 KOS)
WEEKS ON LIST: 277
6

ANDY RUIZ JR.
COUNTRY: U.S.
34-2-0 (22 KOS)
WEEKS ON LIST: 111
7

LUIS ORTIZ
COUNTRY: CUBA
33-2-0 (28 KOS)
WEEKS ON LIST: 189
8

JOE JOYCE
COUNTRY: U.K.
13-0-0 (12 KOS)
WEEKS ON LIST: 3
9

FILIP HRGOVIC
COUNTRY: CROATIA
14-0-0 (12 KOS)
10



Drop Parker to 9, Ortiz to 10, and just bump everyone up a slot so Sanchez is 8 Filip is 7, Joyce 6, Andy at 5 and no changes from 4-c. That'd be good...or just drop Ortiz and Parker all together for Dubois, Yoka, or Kabayel.



Anyway, point is they're all **** and weirdly the best one is the one most obviously for sale.

Yo you’ve gone to town on this, respect. The clue to these rankings is in Sauerland’s statement. He literally said he’s speaking to the IBF to get MFs kicked out of contention. Naturally, this will impact upon his own man’s ranking which begs the question: who ISN’T in contention solely because their promoter lobbies a boxing organisation?

I don’t see a lot of meritocracy in many areas of societal life, but boxing takes the p***. Deeply unfair competition

[Tecnoworld]

Hrgovic is powerful and quite good. Joyce imo is still a bit better. If martin had won over ortiz I think he would have faced Hrgovic. Imo most boxers in the top 10 know that Hrgovic is a threat, they are afraid of loosing their position.

[A_State501]

"All we can do is lobby the IBF to continue through the rankings as soon as possible or make Filip a direct mandatory. That is something we are pushing. The IBF need to act because it makes a mockery of their rankings. People should not be ranked if they have no intention of boxing for the title."

Well said! Make him the direct mandatory, and do the same for Jaron "Boots" Ennis!

How about Boots fights Ortiz in a WBO eliminator? Winner get a shot a Bud or is Spence supposed to fight all comers? Why isn't Bud or Canelo held to the same standards?

[PBR Streetgang]

Maybe OnePunch or some other NSB member can answer this, but do some fighters request certain sanctioning bodies (like the IBF) to not to be ranked by them? I would think the IBF title might be the least preferred because of how strictly they adhere to their regulations. That would explain why their rankings are so devoid of some of the bigger names in each weight class.

[Kannabis Kid]

Hrgovic ran Hunter out of the IBF without throwing a single punch .

Maybe so but if he threw that punch Hunter would've seen his slow ass from a mile away though. You are going to judge Hunter off his last fight but in comparison career wise Hunter has fought way higher quality opponents than Hrgovic the big stiff with no punch variety and subpar power at heavyweight.

You failed to acknowledge his abysmal resume and the quality of his last opponent. 10-10 just remember that he fought a guy and went rounds against someone who went to a SD with a guy who is 10-10.

[OnePunch]

Maybe OnePunch or some other NSB member can answer this, but do some fighters request certain sanctioning bodies (like the IBF) to not to be ranked by them? I would think the IBF title might be the least preferred because of how strictly they adhere to their regulations. That would explain why their rankings are so devoid of some of the bigger names in each weight class.

There is no need to ask a sanctioning body to NOT rank you, because you are not harmed if they do in fact rank you. If you had the ranking, but didnt want to fight an eliminator, you would do what Ortiz and Parker just did, you would pass.

The IBF is only the least preferred by prima donnas who think that mandos or eliminators are beneath them.

[REDEEMER]

Maybe so but if he threw that punch Hunter would've seen his slow ass from a mile away though. You are going to judge Hunter off his last fight but in comparison career wise Hunter has fought way higher quality opponents than Hrgovic the big stiff with no punch variety and subpar power at heavyweight.

You failed to acknowledge his abysmal resume and the quality of his last opponent. 10-10 just remember that he fought a guy and went rounds against someone who went to a SD with a guy who is 10-10.

There’s to many foolish things in this post to warrant any real discussion .

[REDEEMER]

Maybe OnePunch or some other NSB member can answer this, but do some fighters request certain sanctioning bodies (like the IBF) to not to be ranked by them? I would think the IBF title might be the least preferred because of how strictly they adhere to their regulations. That would explain why their rankings are so devoid of some of the bigger names in each weight class.

I think you have to pay for sanction fees ? Or higher fees for higher ranking ? Who knows today ?

[BustedKnuckles]

“Becoming” a mockery?

IBF rankings already are a mockery just like the three stooges (WBC, WBO, WBA). Together with the IBF they are the 4 Horse-sh/ts.

IBF had Charles Martin ranked #2.

Hrgovic being ranked in the top 3 at HW IBF is a mockery itself.

A guy with 14 fights and 0 good wins over good contenders, can fight for a championship. That’s just absurd. But IBF and the other 3 make that a reality.

Ring, Boxingscene, ESPN and TBRB are the only boxing publications that attempt to make rankings that most accurately reflect who really is the best.

When you have a mediocre fighter like Charles Martin at #2, or Anvil Yildirim somehow “earning” his way to #1 at WBC, that should tell you everything you need to know about these organizational rankings. They are pure crap and when I see fans actually using those rankings for serious debates, a little piece of my love for boxing goes away.

IBF literally only gets praise from fans because they aren’t as bad and corrupt as the other 3. But they are still crap and have decades of ruining the sport with their ****** mando’s between established, good contenders and dudes that even a lot of hardcore fans never knew about.

It's kinda depressing when you put it all like that.

[REDEEMER]

It's kinda depressing when you put it all like that.

If someone wants to be ranked high they would accept elimination bouts , I don’t see anyone within the years current years doing it , Hrgovic was rewarded for accepting it why shouldn’t he be ranked high ? Fighters who are ranked high aren’t fighting the next highest ranked guy unless they are forced to which is seldom . I see most saying he’s not fighting anyone but he’s chasing everyone,how does that work ?