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Are past wws overrated? Or do they expose how unbalanced, devoid of big fights ww boxing has become?

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  • #11
    Every era is overrated somehow. And there are eras that are underrated as well.

    The most overrated boxers of all time are the one’s who you need to read about their fights. Can’t watch them. So you need to rely on some biased writer who will exaggerate how good someone is. Just like it’s done now. Journalists still play favorites.

    Regardless, the only one to blame for welterweights being worse now is just boxing itself. That’s just where it was led.

    From 12 titles per weight class, to young fighters needing a title shot at age 20, young fighters who refuse to put the work in and want the biggest money fight before they can even face good contenders, to fans and journalists being okay young rookies becoming paper champions because “they earned it cause no one wants to fight them”. Because you know, young fighters with good promoters can just demand championship fights while having no one of note on their resume and fans cheer for them and call them the most avoided fighter of the last 50 years.

    It’s nuts, but boxing is where it is because of its fans, organizations, journalists and promoters. In other words boxing is where it’s at because of…boxing.

    It’s like people trying to argue against global warming, deforestation, air and ocean pollution, depletion of the atmospheric ozone, loss of biodiversity. Etc. Yes, all of this is happening. Yes, we caused it and/or are making it happen faster. Yes, I helped in causing it. Yes, even though I am helping in causing these environmental issues, I can also admit it and point to myself for being an idiot and destroying the planet. No, denying any of these issues doesn’t make you smart. You are part of the issue no matter if you deny them, or if you use your brain and admit the obvious.

    Same thing in boxing. Boxing has changed for the worse and there are multiple factors for these changes. Fans being one of those factors. Their can absolutely be great boxers today like they were in the past when there was a ladder to climb. But it is difficult to produce them under the current boxing environment. Nobody wants to climb ladders anymore. And fans don’t care. They want fighters who climbed a ladder, to fight new guys who are using a helicopter to get to the top. Using social media to get opportunities. Hiding behind great promoters.

    So, boxing fans, cong****, you are part of the problem whether you like it or not.

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    • #12
      I think SRR original beats them all
      Last edited by Zaroku; 01-02-2022, 10:59 PM.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by just the facts View Post

        You idiot, I’m no Crawford fan. I realize now from your original post and your attack on me that facts just aren’t your thing. Carr never fought, let alone beat, Sweet Pea and you’ll never find a post with me singing Crawford’s praises. Aren’t you the idiot who swore Pac deserved the decision vs Ugas?
        I said I made a mistake as often happens on this site when typing it resets words as other words,you lash out like a passive aggressive cry for help.(thats why your rétarded posts are always followed by calling someone an idiot,like a permanently salty lil biach)

        Who gaf if I said "Ugas didn't deserve the W v Pac

        (I said Ugas is garbage who fought like a bch as usual,& a draw would've been fair,& compubox backs that up showing Pac throwing 400 more punches or 2x despite being way older,& Ugas supposedly landing 12 power shots more(compubox is hella wrong often,but even still only had Pac getting outlanded by an average of 1.6 punches per rd,while throwing an avg. of 32 punches more per round(the way busier,more aggressive fighter who barely got outlanded by compubox)

        ,so quit while you're behind,or don't & keep making an ass of yourself. )
        Last edited by kushking; 01-02-2022, 11:32 PM.

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        • #14
          The PBC welterweights do fight each other.

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          • #15
            Everyone glorifies the past. I think any era can compete with any other.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by tritium_arma View Post
              Everyone glorifies the past. I think any era can compete with any other.
              In this case its warranted that the past be glorified no?

              ,look at the top ww matchups & the fighters ages compared to fights of yesteryear like Leonards young career,Benitez,Duran,Hearns twice,moved up by both Bud & Spences age & fought the best Hagler,Duran,etc.

              Tito v DLH, everyone,DLH v everyone,Floyd v everyone,Pac v everyone,it seems like there aren't any big fights at ww anymore that will even compare to those like Mosely v DLH,

              even Bud will be at least 35 by time he fights Spence if Spence beats Ugas next 1st.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by kushking View Post

                I said I made a mistake as often happens on this site when typing it resets words as other words,you lash out like a passive aggressive cry for help.(thats why your rétarded posts are always followed by calling someone an idiot,like a permanently salty lil biach)

                Who gaf if I said "Ugas didn't deserve the W v Pac

                (I said Ugas is garbage who fought like a bch as usual,& a draw would've been fair,& compubox backs that up showing Pac throwing 400 more punches or 2x despite being way older,& Ugas supposedly landing 12 power shots more(compubox is hella wrong often,but even still only had Pac getting outlanded by an average of 1.6 punches per rd,while throwing an avg. of 32 punches more per round(the way busier,more aggressive fighter who barely got outlanded by compubox)

                ,so quit while you're behind,or don't & keep making an ass of yourself. )
                So far in this thread you’ve posted that Carr beat Whitaker (a fight that never happened), you’ve accused me of being a Crawford fanboy (obviously you’re too lazy to look it up or you wouldn’t have) and now you’re defending your ignorant opinion of a fight that absolutely no one (not even hardcore Pac shills Spoon23, blowblow, Pu$$ywacko) agrees with you.

                Every regular poster here recognizes you for the idiot you obviously are.
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                • #18
                  Originally posted by just the facts View Post

                  So far in this thread you’ve posted that Carr beat Whitaker (a fight that never happened), you’ve accused me of being a Crawford fanboy (obviously you’re too lazy to look it up or you wouldn’t have) and now you’re defending your ignorant opinion of a fight that absolutely no one (not even hardcore Pac shills Spoon23, blowblow, Pu$$ywacko) agrees with you.

                  Every regular poster here recognizes you for the idiot you obviously are.
                  You are just a dumb ass clown that thinks its edgy to try finding a mistake someone made by accident,then you keep repeating it over & over like a absolute bell end wanker.(as they say in the Uk to whiny minges like you)

                  Nobody cares what sht for brains like you thinks about Pac v Ugas, compubox just proved my pt which you can't refute,so you yet again lash out & resort to bs claims you can't back up (just because a few tossers like you don't like the facts I lay down, tough sht, jog on fangimp

                  (& you are the definition of a Crawford fangimp you lying pos,I have gotten in tons of ****** arguments with your fanboi ass about Crawford before,you keep coming back for more,you soyboys love the taste of boots bearing down or you wouldn't be on every 1 of my threads.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by just the facts View Post

                    So far in this thread you’ve posted that Carr beat Whitaker (a fight that never happened), you’ve accused me of being a Crawford fanboy (obviously you’re too lazy to look it up or you wouldn’t have) and now you’re defending your ignorant opinion of a fight that absolutely no one (not even hardcore Pac shills Spoon23, blowblow, Pu$$ywacko) agrees with you.

                    Every regular poster here recognizes you for the idiot you obviously are.
                    Ps only a true clown would think I have a picture of Carr on my profile pic,but didn't know that he never fought Pea

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                    • #20
                      Can Spence/Crawford compete with the past greats? I think so. But their careers so far can’t compare because of all the ducking. Not just them of course, most of present boxing.

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