Comments Thread For: Luis Ortiz Overcomes Two Knockdowns, Blasts Out Charles Martin in Sixth

[JakeTheBoxer]

I personally would like to see either Sanchez or Ortiz fight Helenius now or each other. They have time, they all are hot, and they have time before any higher stakes scraps can be made.

Yeah, that is a good idea.

You can also put Wallin in that mix.

[Ravensfan]

"Luis Ortiz breathes new life into his career." To date Ortiz has still never beaten a top 10 fighter and I am still trying to figure out why Ring still has him rated in their top ten.

[Oldskoolg]

If you refer to me, I am not British and I don`t complain.

I just see what I see and these PBC heavyweights clearly have no business fighting top guys from other companies.

I mean, do you really believe Ortiz or Kownacki will be allowed to fight Joshua, Whyte, Joyce? Lol, don`t make me laugh.

I was speaking in general. As for the names you mentioned, given that almost all fighters mentioned by young Edward lately from heavyweight to welterweight have been pbc fighters yes I do believe those fighters would be sought after for legitimate shots to name recognition. Easy peezy Japanesey

[Oldskoolg]

"Luis Ortiz breathes new life into his career." To date Ortiz has still never beaten a top 10 fighter and I am still trying to figure out why Ring still has him rated in their top ten.

Martin just got knocked out, he was rated #2 by the IBF and formerly held the IBF title.

[Rodtang]

Yeah!

To be fair Matchroom have loads of heavies, so its more doable with a big pool to match from. But the more I think of it PBC have a few now also. It's just finding match ups on a like for like level, for entertaining fights.

[Rodtang]

Well I believe a lot of that has to do with economics. Outside of boxing fans, who has ever heard of Filip Hrgović? Team Ortiz probably thinks that he is too high risk and low reward. In addition, It's a fight that Ortiz doesn't need at this stage of his career.

For sure he is high risk low reward. And that's why the whole top 15 said no lol. But someone is gonna have to, because to get the mandatory, they'll have to go through Hrgovic. The thing is Ortiz still has a chance, as he can clearly still punch. But it's the taking of punches now that is the issue and Hrgovic is a serious unit. I agree that Ortiz should maybe leave that one alone. But time is not his friend anymore either.

[Rodtang]

British lads….stop complaining about pbc “in house fights”….all promoters do that as best they can. It’s not Haymon’s fault so many fighters want to work with him. Top Rank does the same thing but you lot don’t complain about that outfit. Young Edward has already said he wants to control the sport globally and that he wanted an American takeover, AND that “if you want to fight a Dazone fighter you have to sign with dazone.” He is literally saying he wants to do the same thing.
ita only an issue because you lot don’t like Haymon and it’s getting really stale and entirely obvious. Your motives are your own but your methodology should be embarrassing because islets plain to see

Open your eyes. They all do in-house, and there's nothing wrong with in-house at times. But not exclusively. And Haymon follows that path. PBC only fight non PBC when ordered, or if there's something to gain with nothing to lose. If you can't see that then refer to my opening sentence. Hearn, Arum and DLH will all work with each other when there's a piece of buisness to be done and it makes sense.And that doesn't mean all gain, nothing to lose. They don't have to like each other, just work with each other. If Haymon could get on board, there'd be so many more great fights.

[Rodtang]

If you refer to me, I am not British and I don`t complain.

I just see what I see and these PBC heavyweights clearly have no business fighting top guys from other companies.

I mean, do you really believe Ortiz or Kownacki will be allowed to fight Joshua, Whyte, Joyce? Lol, don`t make me laugh.

It's not just at Heavyweight. It's up and down the divisions.

[Oldskoolg]

Open your eyes. They all do in-house, and there's nothing wrong with in-house at times. But not exclusively. And Haymon follows that path. PBC only fight non PBC when ordered, or if there's something to gain with nothing to lose. If you can't see that then refer to my opening sentence. Hearn, Arum and DLH will all work with each other when there's a piece of buisness to be done and it makes sense.And that doesn't mean all gain, nothing to lose. They don't have to like each other, just work with each other. If Haymon could get on board, there'd be so many more great fights.

What would you like me to open my eyes to? Wilder v Fury? Spence v Brook? Ruiz v Joshua? Canelo v Plant? Castano v Teixeira? Porter v Crawford?

“Open your eyes” was no doubt for dramatic effect but I’m immune to Jedi mind tricks. You’re spewing emotional propaganda. But like Josef Goebels said, “if you tell a lie long enough people will believe it.” And hence the bran dead anti pbc chants. I suspect, and strongly so, that we wouldn’t see these accusations at all if your god Hearn was running the sport…..it would be considered the natural order of things…..

[REDEEMER]

People saying who Ortiz fights next, and who Martin fights next. Nobody saying the rematch. Does that appeal to anyone, since it produced an entertaining fight?

This was an elimination bout .

Hrgovic is most likely next . I wouldn’t mind seeing a rematch it was a good fight and still posters complaining on this or that guy should retire ,it’s like when a good fight happens they don’t want to see the fighters fight again because someone lost or they struggled to get the win ?