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  • #81
    Originally posted by djtmal View Post

    A lot of ppl, except you and your bogus boxing historians of course, have Manny ahead of Floyd and Roy despite the losses. There's guys far ahead of all of those guys with more losses. All Canelo gotta do is keep beating the best guys in their prime until his time is up, stay away from cherrypicking Youtubers and Japanese kickboxers, and he'll lap Floyd easy, and surpass all involved.
    Manny is clearly the 2nd best of Floyd’s era. Nothing wrong with that. No need to exaggerate.

    Canelo will not surpass Floyd. As with Manny, same as With Roy and Bhop, we watched them in the ring against each other.

    In each case it is abundantly clear who the better boxer is. Now I understand someone like you, who has been caught lying on numerous occasions on NSB and who dreams of washing Manny’s nuts with their mouth, will try to make a case for Manny being better. You look silly attempting to do so but to each his own.

    Floyd easily and thoroughly beat Manny and Canelo. Roy would do same. I am sure Canelo would ko Manny but we will never know.

    Having him 3 or 4 is fair and reasonable. If you disagree it’s only because you’re a lying cum gurgling f@gg0t Manny fanboy that still hasn’t gotten over him losing so wide.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by GrandpaBernard View Post
      Currently Oscar de La Hoya level imo
      No, Oscar is better than Canelo, he's the far superior boxer. Oscar started at 130 and fought all the way up 160 while capturing six division titles in the process.

      Also, an old, washed up, and past prime DLH did better than Canelo against Mayweather.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by HandsofIron View Post

        No, Oscar is better than Canelo, he's the far superior boxer. Oscar started at 130 and fought all the way up 160 while capturing six division titles in the process.

        Also, an old, washed up, and past prime DLH did better than Canelo against Mayweather.
        - - Young green 21 yr old Canelo did better against Mosley than did Oscar.

        When Oscar was 21, he was at this low level.

        https://boxrec.com/en/event/5639/14216

        See how that works?

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        • #84
          Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

          - - Young green 21 yr old Canelo did better against Mosley than did Oscar.

          When Oscar was 21, he was at this low level.

          https://boxrec.com/en/event/5639/14216

          See how that works?
          Oscar did better in the rematch and it can be argued that he won the 2nd fight. Plus, Mosley was past prime and past his best weight when he fought Canelo at 154.

          But I digress, DLH, an Olympian and gold medal winner, is superior boxing wise to Canelo, this can't be denied.

          Canelo can be outboxed, this was proven in the Mayweather fight.

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          • #85
            He is so great, that he lost to Lara and GGG.

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            • #86
              Yes about level with Oscar De La Hoya, or maybe just under. Oscar De La Hoya, fought in a greater era and has better wins.

              Alvarez has fought in a below par era, that is the only reason why he is yo yoing up and down the weight classes.

              Are you guys trying to tell me, Alvarez would of went up to Cruiser weight to face David Haye? Are you trying to tell me that Alvarez would of waded through middle-weights such as Nigel Benn, Chris Eubank Senior, James Toney, Michael Nunn, Roy Jones Junior, Steve Collins, Joe Calzaghe, Robin Reid, Carl Froch, Peak Jermaine Taylor, Kelly Pavlik, Bernard Hopkins?

              Canelo Alvarez is a great fighter, but the landscape he is competing in is not as brutal as the 90's or early 2000's 'From Welter-Weight all the way up to Light Heavyweight, and the Cruiser-weight division has its ups and downs. I think the cruiser-weight division right now is on a down, standard of fighters is not very high at all.

              As another posters up above has stated, Oscar De La Hoya achieved everything. When you take his whole career into account, De La Hoya is not far behind Floyd Mayweather Junior 'Oscar De La Hoya was the 1992 Olympic Champion, and Mayweather captured the Bronze Medal at the 1996 Olympics' Although it was a controversial loss, I will have to look further into that fight.


              Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 01-08-2022, 12:40 PM.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by Boxing fan1981 View Post

                Would never bet against Alvarez. As a former gambler, these are the fighters you stay away from betting against.
                Looking at some of those pro Canelo scorecards, you’re absolutely right.

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