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  • BendOver
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    #71
    Originally posted by Boxing fan1981

    Was 23 and drained, with a biiitch clause, I mean catchweight clause, so no credit for Floyd.

    Lara ran like a hoe

    GGG has a draw and loss against Canelo. It hurts you deeply, but it’s true.
    It doesn't hurt me $h1t, no credit because he lost to fraud, looked like an amateur against Lara and ran from ggg? By the way, the king of catchweight is the new fraud, ginger. Wr all know. Be safe son, you're not talking to a newbie.

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    • Boxing fan1981
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      #72
      Originally posted by BendOver

      It doesn't hurt me $h1t, no credit because he lost to fraud, looked like an amateur against Lara and ran from ggg? By the way, the king of catchweight is the new fraud, ginger. Wr all know. Be safe son, you're not talking to a newbie.
      Catchweight King? Canelo?

      What belts did he win and gain using a catchweight fight?

      You must be confused with Pacquaio.

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      • Boxing fan1981
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        #73
        Originally posted by BendOver

        It doesn't hurt me $h1t, no credit because he lost to fraud, looked like an amateur against Lara and ran from ggg? By the way, the king of catchweight is the new fraud, ginger. Wr all know. Be safe son, you're not talking to a newbie.
        Ran from GGG? He has a win and a draw against GGG.

        I get the feeling you have, what 10 years of watching boxing? If not, definitely feels like you’re a novice.

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        • joseph5620
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          #74
          Originally posted by Boxing fan1981

          When has Floyd ever won against anyone in that fashion, never seen Floyd do that to anyone. I guess maybe against Hatton?

          What other fight did he blast anyone else like that? I’m not talking clear decision wins here either. I’m talking about getting blasted out, cooked, ass beat and destroyed.
          You must have missed the Diego Corrales and Genero Hernandez fights.

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          • BendOver
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            #75
            Originally posted by Boxing fan1981

            Ran from GGG? He has a win and a draw against GGG.

            I get the feeling you have, what 10 years of watching boxing? If not, definitely feels like you’re a novice.
            The first fight, he didn't engage. He was trying to box. And lost that one fair and square. But of course, he was given a draw. You feelings are wrong. I have been watching live boxing and reading about it since the early 60's. Have watched many great fights.

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            • Boxing fan1981
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              #76
              Originally posted by joseph5620

              You must have missed the Diego Corrales and Genero Hernandez fights.
              This shiiit puts a smile on my face for real….ah yes the ole Corrales and Chicanito examples to talk up Floyd, as if these guys were ever anything special. Corrales had an epic comeback fluke win over Castillo, but let’s not get carried away.

              You guys crack me up

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                #77
                Originally posted by Boxing fan1981

                This shiiit puts a smile on my face for real….ah yes the ole Corrales and Chicanito examples to talk up Floyd, as if these guys were ever anything special. Corrales had an epic comeback fluke win over Castillo, but let’s not get carried away.

                You guys crack me up
                Corrales was unbeaten and in the top 5 on the pound for pound list at the time. Went on to win another world title against Joel Casamayor. Probably the only fight when the opponent was favored against Mayweather.Hernandez was a world champion who had never lost at 130 pounds. Both were better and more accomplished than BJS, Plant, or Callum Smith. So you just exposed your ignorance you dumb casual. Try that BS on someone that doesn't know better.




                Mayweather was 21 with 18 professional fights when he beat Hernandez.. Canelo was 23 with 44 fights when he was dominated by Mayweather yet you and his other fan girls claim Canelo was too young at 23 against a past prime 36 year old Mayweather.
                Last edited by joseph5620; 01-03-2022, 10:59 PM.

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                • TernceBudCharlo
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by joseph5620

                  Corrales was unbeaten and in the top 5 on the pound for pound list at the time. Went on to win another world title against Joel Casamayor. Probably the only fight when the opponent was favored against Mayweather.Hernandez was a world champion had never lost at 130 pounds. Both were better and more accomplished than BJS, Plant or Callum Smith. So you just exposed your ignorance you dumb casual. Try that BS on someone that doesn't know better.




                  Mayweather was 21 with 18 professional fighters even he beat German. Canelo was 23 with 44 fights when he was dominated by Mayweather yet you and his other fan girls claim Canelo was too young at 23 against a past prime 36 year old Mayweather.
                  Yes, it really isn't even close. Canelo is great TODAY, but what Floyd did was all time great ****. You can't compare their resumes at all, Canelo's resume is far closer to a Terence Crawford than Floyd. Canelo isnt regularly fighting people on the p4p list like Floyd was.

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                  • j0zef
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                    #79
                    All the skills in the world, average resume, hate the way he's managed. Dude didn't like getting drained by Floyd and has been using that as an excuse to try to get every advantage he possibly can. He went from Caneloweight, to MW too big for me, to unified SMW, to cherry picking an aging, tired LHW, to cherry picking guys without power, to now cherry picking a CW that nobody knew a month ago.

                    If he wants actual ATG status instead of being running joke, the road is wide open for him. He has the popularity to make any fight he wants. Want to be an actual undisputed SMW champ? Benavidez is there, waiting - the guy in the prime of his career who was considered #1 in the division and never lost the title in the ring. Benavidez has something that nobody has really had since G - power to hurt Canelo.

                    Want to ACTUALLY climb divisions? Drop this CW bullsht. Canelo is not a CW, he's too small. Can he lose? Sure. There's a punchers chance, but otherwise it's just heavy bag practice. Want real respect? Clear out LHW for real. There are 3 serious, different contenders waiting for Canelo. Bivol, the smooth operator who will one of the best pure boxers he's faced. There's Gilberto Ramirez, undefeated Mexican who climbed from SMW. There's Beterbiev, who's not only a unified, undefeated champ, he also still has 100% KO ratio.

                    Or hell, he should have made 3rd Golovkin fight 1-2 years ago. He can keep pretending that he has nothing to prove and he's won convincingly, nobody except the most rabid fanboys buy it. They fought over 24 rounds, and at the end of it, after the Byrd scorecard, the PED scandal, Canelo won by 1 round. He didn't prove anything against a much older fighter. He should have erased that black mark on his record years ago, and the fact that he didn't will continue to baffle people for years to come. It was, and still is, by far the most lucrative fight Canelo can make.

                    The sad thing is that all of these fights are VERY winnable for Canelo. Benavidez has the power but fights recklessly. Bivol is excellent technically, but unlikely to knock Canelo out. Ramirez shows flashes of greatness, and has the power, but is very inconsistent and has shown inability to adapt (Hart fights). Beterbiev is strong, but he swings and leaves himself wide open. Golovkin is old and inactive.

                    Canelo's legacy is there, if he wants it.

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                    • The Viper
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                      #80
                      Right Now? Top 40-50 easy

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