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    #21
    Originally posted by Nash out
    This just shows the ******ity and jealousy of Groves. There are plenty of giants in the world. Fury is great not cos he is 6 ft 9, but because he has skills a man that size does not normally have. Groves needs to stick to what he is good at. Getting beaten up by Froch, Forster, Smith, and Badou Jack. Jealous domestic level bum, who beat a chump for an alphabet title. Groves never was, and never will be a Champion. He is just a man with fake fur on top of his head. Nash out. Nash wishes all the great posters a Happy Nash Year for 2022.
    Indeed, Fury has fought and defeated legitimate world champions. What did Groves ever achieve? The highlight of his career was him getting brutally KO'd by Froch and falling on his own leg.
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      #22
      If Fury lived and trained his whole life like Usyk (or Wlad) has he just might be invincible. But he hasn´t and he isn´t.. he has the talent but lacks that last bit of discipline. Plenty of cases like that in boxing.

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        #23
        Originally posted by BangEM

        Isn’t that the same way Wilder conned everyone into being called the biggest puncher ever? What’s the difference between what Wilder did and what Jake Paul is doing? But some idiots still parrot that nonsense even after he has been exposed 3x by the same guy who suffered worse knock downs against bums who aren’t known for their power.

        They’re all muppets and have always been muppets who get paid for propaganda. It’s media narrative - the same way the news is a scripted circus where they tell you what they want you to hear.

        I’m sure you’re smarter than this and you know how propaganda/narrative works. Fury’s resume tells you all you need to know.

        You’re a Fury fan and it’s normal to defend yer man. But don’t be obtuse.
        I see that you've now resorted to conspiracy theories, that loss to Usyk appears to have completely broken you.

        Wilder's power is legit, I don't need the media to tell me that, I can see it with my own eyes.
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          #24
          Originally posted by denium

          I see that you've now resorted to conspiracy theories, that loss to Usyk appears to have completely broken you.

          Wilder's power is legit, I don't need the media to tell me that, I can see it with my own eyes.
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          You sound like a muppet. When facts hit yer face, it’s always easy to throw conspiracy theory cape around.

          I thought you’re bright but it seem you’re not. Based on biology, physics, human anatomy and playing sports - anyone with a brain knows power comes the legs (that’s where you generate power). So that alone should tell you that it’s not humanly possible for a guy with skinny legs and zero balance like Wilder to hit as hard as they claim.

          So anyone with a brain knows it’s propaganda. And the fact that the noise got big due to the PBC fighters he fought back to back. But when he faced a chinny guy who isn’t on PBC - the power evaporated. Why is that? Jake Paul is basically doing what Wilder did.

          It’s the same with Fury: 60% propaganda, 40% con artist.
          Last edited by BangEM; 01-01-2022, 08:16 AM.

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            #25
            Originally posted by BangEM



            You sound like a muppet. When facts hit yer face, it’s always easy to throw conspiracy theory cape around.

            I thought you’re bright but it seem you’re not. Based on biology, physics, human anatomy and playing sports - anyone with a brain knows power comes the legs (that’s where you generate power). So that alone should tell you that it’s not humanly possible for a guy with skinny legs and zero balance like Wilder to hit as hard as they claim.

            So anyone with a brain knows it’s propaganda. And the fact that the noise got big due to the PBC fighters he fought back to back. But when he faced a chinny guy who isn’t on PBC - the power evaporated. Why is that? Jake Paul is basically doing what Wilder did.

            It’s the same with Fury: 60% propaganda, 40% con artist.
            Right, and in your imaginary world where Wilder has no power, AJ is unbeaten and has the heart of a lion.

            Jake Paul is knocking out under-sized retired MMA fighters, Wilder is knocking enormous guys like Ortiz and Breazeale clean out.

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              #26
              Originally posted by denium

              Right, and in your imaginary world where Wilder has no power, AJ is unbeaten and has the heart of a lion.

              Jake Paul is knocking out under-sized retired MMA fighters, Wilder is knocking enormous guys like Ortiz and Breazeale clean out.

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              You sound like a broken record and twisted con artist like Fury in trying to twist what I said. Just take yer fccking L.

              You’re probably daft and unable to read but there’s a difference between “exaggerated power” and “no power”. And I don’t remember ever saying Wilder has no power.

              Also, when did I say AJ is unbeaten and has the heart of a lion? AJ beats Fury =/= AJ is unbeaten.

              LMAO ar Jake Paul knocking people out. You’re a big dummy if you can’t see the script. They borrowed that script from PBC and Wilder’s exploit against other PBC knock offs.

              We all know Fury is chinny. So why didn’t Wilder knock him clean out? He caught him about 20 times clean in the 3rd fight, lol. Where did the biggest puncher in history’s power go? LMAOOO
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                #27
                Originally posted by BangEM

                You sound like a broken record and twisted con artist like Fury in trying to twist what I said. Just take yer fccking L.

                You’re probably daft and unable to read but there’s a difference between “exaggerated power” and “no power”. And I don’t remember ever saying Wilder has no power.

                Also, when did I say AJ is unbeaten and has the heart of a lion? AJ beats Fury =/= AJ is unbeaten.

                LMAO ar Jake Paul knocking people out. You’re a big dummy if you can’t see the script. They borrowed that script from PBC and Wilder’s exploit against other PBC knock offs.

                We all know Fury is chinny. So why didn’t Wilder knock him clean out? He caught him about 20 times clean in the 3rd fight, lol. Where did the biggest puncher in history’s power go? LMAOOO
                You are the one who twists everything people says and accuses everybody of being "stalkers" and "haters" you need to take your medication and sit your ass down somewhere. Fury chinny? if those shots Wilder was letting off hit AJ the way they hit Fury he would of been out cold, he couldn't knock out Fury because he has real recovery and heart something that your hero will never possess and that's why people have lost faith and respect in AJ. You need to understand you are the minority thinking AJ win but you force your opinion so strongly you would rather believe everybody else is deluded.Should of kept you banned for your own benefit man obsessed.
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by BangEM

                  Fury won a lot of his fights by cheating via dirty tactics. And Wilder isn’t the yardstick to measure how good a fighter. Wilder is the worst boxer in history and his so-called power is exaggerated and I’m tempted to say choreographed (Stiverne, Breazeale and Ortiz KOs look like how Jake Paul KOs people - all fake and scripted).

                  Interestingly all the guys Wilder knocked out are PBC fighters but when he faced Fury who has been put down heavily by little bums who aren’t known for the power - the exaggerated power disappeared. How sway?

                  Two types of boxers Fury struggles against:

                  - Boxers he can’t bully with his height/weight and cheat.
                  - Boxers that move and are light on their feet.

                  Usyk, AJ and Whyte are guys that are built to beat Fury. I’m 100% certain Usyk and AJ beat Fury comfortably. I’d give Whyte 65% advantage because of his susceptibility to uppercuts. But then again Fury rarely throws uppercuts and whenever he does - he telegraphs it.
                  Man I thought your points were good until....
                  You lost me on Wilder's scripted KO's of Stiverne Brezeale Ortiz etc
                  Conspiracy theories on fake fights only to prove your points but the other fights you like are all real
                  Smh

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by BangEM

                    Fury won a lot of his fights by cheating via dirty tactics. And Wilder isn’t the yardstick to measure how good a fighter. Wilder is the worst boxer in history and his so-called power is exaggerated and I’m tempted to say choreographed (Stiverne, Breazeale and Ortiz KOs look like how Jake Paul KOs people - all fake and scripted).

                    Interestingly all the guys Wilder knocked out are PBC fighters but when he faced Fury who has been put down heavily by little bums who aren’t known for the power - the exaggerated power disappeared. How sway?

                    Two types of boxers Fury struggles against:

                    - Boxers he can’t bully with his height/weight and cheat.
                    - Boxers that move and are light on their feet.

                    Usyk, AJ and Whyte are guys that are built to beat Fury. I’m 100% certain Usyk and AJ beat Fury comfortably. I’d give Whyte 65% advantage because of his susceptibility to uppercuts. But then again Fury rarely throws uppercuts and whenever he does - he telegraphs it.
                    Had they envisioned what has went down with Fury, they would never have let Wilder anywhere near Fury. To be fair none of us really seen it coming. That was a cherry pick gone wrong if ever there was one. That said, beating Wilder 3 times doesn't make you a legend, just because you say so and you have a delusional fanbase that are susceptible to excessive gullibility.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by denium

                      Lol at these Joshua fanboys gassing up Usyk just because he schooled their big stiff hero.

                      Fury is levels above Joshua, and Usyk will find that out the hard way.
                      Not I. I said before the fight that I thought Usyk would win. In fact someone accused me of not being a Joshua fan, saying if I was a true Joshua fan I'd pick him to win. I am a Joshua fan, but I like to try to give an honest assessment and opinion. And that honest assessment makes me think Usyk will win again, even though I want Joshua to win. And that honest assessment also has me believing that Usyk also beats Fury. Here's another honest assessment for you. Your reading skills are piss poor, as I already said all this in my previous comment, but yet you failed to understand what I said. You don't have to agree, but at least try reading properly and understanding. It'll open up new possibilities for you.

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