Comments Thread For: Groves: Usyk is The Best Talent in The Heavyweight Division

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Been saying for years, size, awkwardness and dirty tactics, have got Fury his success. People say Wilder can't box, and Joshua is chinny, yet Fury has been on the mat more times, than any other fighter than the current top 11 heavyweights. But what Fury has, is this otherworldly thing going on, to be able to get off the deck, and its beyond belief sometimes how he does it. But Usyk will beat him. Because Usyk isn't chinny, and will be there for the final bell. And Usyk can box. Furys otherworldly ability won't help him here. Usyk doesn't even need to put Fury down ( although I still think he will ). Usyk will outbox Fury comfortably. And after Usyk becomes a 2 weight undisputed, and repells all comers for a couple of years, only then will Usyk be beaten as he becomes complacent at some point with the lack of a new challenge. Am I a Usyk fan? No. I like the guy, and think he's a fantastic fighter. I wanted Joshua to beat him, I just didn't think it would happen. I can't see Joshua winning the rematch either unfortunately. But I've got to be honest. I'm not a fanboy or a nuthugger. Personally I don't see Fury even stepping up to Usyk. He thinks he's the greatest Heaveyweight since Ali and his era and any other BS he has come out with, and hasn't proven that, and I don't think he'll try to either.

Lol at these Joshua fanboys gassing up Usyk just because he schooled their big stiff hero.

Fury is levels above Joshua, and Usyk will find that out the hard way.

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You and I know Fury is con artist, cheat and an opportunist. If he had to fight back to top-10 contenders like everyone else and not duck all the fights he ducked on his comeup - he’d be walking around with 4/5 losses right now.

Groves is right.

Gotta laugh at how Fury has conned all these professionals and experts into thinking that he's the #1 HW on the planet, I guess these muppets who make up the rankings at Ring/TBRB don't know anything about boxing.

[Dakuwaqa]

Fury is 9 foot tall with 11 foot reach.

He’s obviously very talented but his dimensions give him huge natural advantages.

Usyk is clearly a better boxer

[BangEM]

Been saying for years, size, awkwardness and dirty tactics, have got Fury his success. People say Wilder can't box, and Joshua is chinny, yet Fury has been on the mat more times, than any other fighter than the current top 11 heavyweights. But what Fury has, is this otherworldly thing going on, to be able to get off the deck, and its beyond belief sometimes how he does it. But Usyk will beat him. Because Usyk isn't chinny, and will be there for the final bell. And Usyk can box. Furys otherworldly ability won't help him here. Usyk doesn't even need to put Fury down ( although I still think he will ). Usyk will outbox Fury comfortably. And after Usyk becomes a 2 weight undisputed, and repells all comers for a couple of years, only then will Usyk be beaten as he becomes complacent at some point with the lack of a new challenge. Am I a Usyk fan? No. I like the guy, and think he's a fantastic fighter. I wanted Joshua to beat him, I just didn't think it would happen. I can't see Joshua winning the rematch either unfortunately. But I've got to be honest. I'm not a fanboy or a nuthugger. Personally I don't see Fury even stepping up to Usyk. He thinks he's the greatest Heaveyweight since Ali and his era and any other BS he has come out with, and hasn't proven that, and I don't think he'll try to either.

Fury won a lot of his fights by cheating via dirty tactics. And Wilder isn’t the yardstick to measure how good a fighter. Wilder is the worst boxer in history and his so-called power is exaggerated and I’m tempted to say choreographed (Stiverne, Breazeale and Ortiz KOs look like how Jake Paul KOs people - all fake and scripted).

Interestingly all the guys Wilder knocked out are PBC fighters but when he faced Fury who has been put down heavily by little bums who aren’t known for the power - the exaggerated power disappeared. How sway?

Two types of boxers Fury struggles against:

- Boxers he can’t bully with his height/weight and cheat.
- Boxers that move and are light on their feet.

Usyk, AJ and Whyte are guys that are built to beat Fury. I’m 100% certain Usyk and AJ beat Fury comfortably. I’d give Whyte 65% advantage because of his susceptibility to uppercuts. But then again Fury rarely throws uppercuts and whenever he does - he telegraphs it.

[Tony Green]

Name what usyk does alot better than tyson fury. Now add in alright probably even skillset n iq yet tyson like 6 inches taller 60-70 lbs heavier just as fast stronger less tyson sick he wins 90% time the best matchup is usyk vs wilder can usyk deal with his length athletism and right hand he wont box you hes just looking for the right hand it will land by 12 you will get dropped yet can you get back up only person to get up was 60-70lbs heavier n to drop him multi times impressive weight wise its like if ryan garcia n canelo fought somehow ryan dropped him 4x in 3 fights ppl would be impressed even if he loses

People were impressed when he lost the trilogy

[BangEM]

Gotta laugh at how Fury has conned all these professionals and experts into thinking that he's the #1 HW on the planet, I guess these muppets who make up the rankings at Ring/TBRB don't know anything about boxing.

Isn’t that the same way Wilder conned everyone into being called the biggest puncher ever? What’s the difference between what Wilder did and what Jake Paul is doing? But some idiots still parrot that nonsense even after he has been exposed 3x by the same guy who suffered worse knock downs against bums who aren’t known for their power.

They’re all muppets and have always been muppets who get paid for propaganda. It’s media narrative - the same way the news is a scripted circus where they tell you what they want you to hear.

I’m sure you’re smarter than this and you know how propaganda/narrative works. Fury’s resume tells you all you need to know.

You’re a Fury fan and it’s normal to defend yer man. But don’t be obtuse.

[P to the J]

Name what usyk does alot better than tyson fury. Now add in alright probably even skillset n iq yet tyson like 6 inches taller 60-70 lbs heavier just as fast stronger less tyson sick he wins 90% time the best matchup is usyk vs wilder can usyk deal with his length athletism and right hand he wont box you hes just looking for the right hand it will land by 12 you will get dropped yet can you get back up only person to get up was 60-70lbs heavier n to drop him multi times impressive weight wise its like if ryan garcia n canelo fought somehow ryan dropped him 4x in 3 fights ppl would be impressed even if he loses

Difference in footwork is night and day, Usyk is a crisper, and better combination puncher. But mainly, footwork.

I think he dances circles round Fury, who has a tendency to get caught under his feet, and touches him to the body all night (not like that, though. That’s a different PPV altogether)

[P to the J]

Fury won a lot of his fights by cheating via dirty tactics. And Wilder isn’t the yardstick to measure how good a fighter. Wilder is the worst boxer in history and his so-called power is exaggerated and I’m tempted to say choreographed (Stiverne, Breazeale and Ortiz KOs look like how Jake Paul KOs people - all fake and scripted).

Interestingly all the guys Wilder knocked out are PBC fighters but when he faced Fury who has been put down heavily by little bums who aren’t known for the power - the exaggerated power disappeared. How sway?

Two types of boxers Fury struggles against:

- Boxers he can’t bully with his height/weight and cheat.
- Boxers that move and are light on their feet.

Usyk, AJ and Whyte are guys that are built to beat Fury. I’m 100% certain Usyk and AJ beat Fury comfortably. I’d give Whyte 65% advantage because of his susceptibility to uppercuts. But then again Fury rarely throws uppercuts and whenever he does - he telegraphs it.

I think Joshua can give Fury a seriously tough time, and I think Whyte goes to decision against him.

Having said that, I like the look of the former fight more than the latter. I see a multiple knockdown fight, potentially, with AJ v Fury

[Nash out]

This just shows the ******ity and jealousy of Groves. There are plenty of giants in the world. Fury is great not cos he is 6 ft 9, but because he has skills a man that size does not normally have. Groves needs to stick to what he is good at. Getting beaten up by Froch, Forster, Smith, and Badou Jack. Jealous domestic level bum, who beat a chump for an alphabet title. Groves never was, and never will be a Champion. He is just a man with fake fur on top of his head. Nash out. Nash wishes all the great posters a Happy Nash Year for 2022.

[Kzbox]

He’s not bitter - he says it as it’s. Everyone with a brain knows Fury is a con artist.

Coming from a guy who worships a manufactured stiff robot who only casuals really **** with? anybody inside of boxing knows AJ is overrated af and has little skills and the heart of the cowardly lion.