Canelo jumping up higher weight classes

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

John Ruiz > Illunga Makabu and it’s not even close tbh.

Toney’s run at HW was the best out of any former middleweight’s in the modern era too.

I don’t see Canelo going to HW, nor should he have to either, his legacy is already secure.

[Boxing fan1981]

John Ruiz > Illunga Makabu and it’s not even close tbh.

Toney’s run at HW was the best out of any former middleweight’s in the modern era too.

I don’t see Canelo going to HW, nor should he have to either, his legacy is already secure.

Both weren’t the top dogs of the division, but no one questioned Roy about “cherry picking” Ruiz, that’s my point. Who is better between the two is irrelevant.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Both weren’t the top dogs of the division, but no one questioned Roy about “cherry picking” Ruiz, that’s my point. Who is better between the two is irrelevant.

Who else could Roy have fought though? Lennox? Wlad? Those guys are way too big, it’s like asking Canelo to jump up and fight Fury or Wilder. It’s crazy. The only other guy he could have reasonably fought was Chris Byrd but it’s not like he was all that much better than Ruiz.

The term “cherry pick” is so overused by modern fans and half of them don’t really have a good understanding of the concept. Moving up 25 plus pounds and fighting a guy 30 plus pounds heavier is far from a cherry pick. Just like Canelo moving up 22 pounds and fighting a much naturally bigger guy in Makabu isn’t a cherry pick. There are significant risks involved in both those matchups.

[4truth]

It's because anyone who's watched the cruiserweight division knows how terrible Makambu is he holds a belt but really isn't at top 10 cruserweght. Floyd said that all the welterweights in his gym were beating the **** out of him.

It doesn't matter though because the fight isn't happening. Canelo is fighting Joe Smith which is a much bigger challenge then Makalbu.

You keep using that quote from Floyd which to anyone paying attention at all has zero credibility. Floyd gets apoplectic every time Canelo’s name is in the news.

Floyd gets less and less attention every day and he’s not leaving the stage at all gracefully.

[Boxing fan1981]

Who else could Roy have fought though? Lennox? Wlad? Those guys are way too big, it’s like asking Canelo to jump up and fight Fury or Wilder. It’s crazy. The only other guy he could have reasonably fought was Chris Byrd but it’s not like he was all that much better than Ruiz.

The term “cherry pick” is so overused by modern fans and half of them don’t really have a good understanding of the concept. Moving up 25 plus pounds and fighting a guy 30 plus pounds heavier is far from a cherry pick. Just like Canelo moving up 22 pounds and fighting a much naturally bigger guy in Makabu isn’t a cherry pick. There are significant risks involved in both those matchups.

Youre preaching to the choir.

I agree with everything you said. That’s why I put quotes, because dumb fans think it’s a cherry pick. Roy is one of my top top fighters, but so is Canelo. I want them both to get recognized for what they did.

I was posting about how Roys achievement will be questioned more by fans now, not me.

Maybe it’s just me, but I find it exciting when I see a skilled smaller guy go up against a bigger less skilled fighter. The bug guy has the power and can end things at any second.

[VG_Addict]

Roy winning a title at HW might be impressive from a historical standpoint, but there's a reason he picked Ruiz.