Canelo jumping up higher weight classes

[Boxing fan1981]

This is going to diminish Roy Jones jr’s heavyweight belt.

I remember the days when people used to speak with mystique over Roy grabbing a heavyweight belt as a career middleweight. It was a massive accomplishment. To this day I applaud it, and still respect what he did.

Now? Things have changed. Haters are out in force to let everyone know, it is not ok anymore to grab a belt in a higher weight class, unless it’s against the top dog.

This new understanding means Roy’s accomplishment is collateral damage. As everyone knows he grabbed a heavyweight belt by beating John the Quiet Man Ruiz when there were real killers at that weight, which of course he didn’t want none of. No one questioned him as he went back down to 175lbs, and understood why he left, and didn’t hold it against him.

Canelo isn’t afforded this luxury. Canelo jumping up to Cruiserweight against the WBC champion, as a 5’7” middleweight is nothing special now because it’s not against the top ranked champion. Now, there are rumblings that he’ll reach for a heavyweight title, if the 4 belts change hands in the future.

Naturally, haters are laying the ground work, ready to say of course he’s going up against a weak champion, thus reminding us all that Roy did this once, and Roy was applauded over such a tactic once upon a time.

Not anymore.

[AKAcronym]

Cool story.

[TernceBudCharlo]

It's because anyone who's watched the cruiserweight division knows how terrible Makambu is he holds a belt but really isn't at top 10 cruserweght. Floyd said that all the welterweights in his gym were beating the **** out of him.

It doesn't matter though because the fight isn't happening. Canelo is fighting Joe Smith which is a much bigger challenge then Makalbu.

[Boxing fan1981]

Listen, take back Makabu not being a top 10 cruiserweight. He’s the WBC champion and has been for a long time. Fight or no Canelo fight, at least keep it real.

MF’r you can’t even name 10 cruiserweights lol

[TernceBudCharlo]

Listen, take back Makabu not being a top 10 cruiserweight. He’s the WBC champion and has been for a long time. Fight or no Canelo fight, at least keep it real.

MF’r you can’t even name 10 cruiserweights lol

He is ranked in the top 10 by the ring but I've seen him fight many times along with many other cruiserweight. He dint even enter any of the 2 super 6s because he knows he gets his ass beat by all those guys, Breides, Dorticos, Tabiti, Masternak, Huck, Glowacki, Gassiev, Hunter, I don't even know if he beats Mchunu again the second time.

Cieslak was the only respectable opponent Makabu ever fought at cruiser and even he just fought bums.

Also Tony Bellew was a light heavyweight, a total fraud at cruiserweight, but he still beat the **** out of Makabu.

Skill wise and resume use Makabu is not better than any those guys I named.

[TernceBudCharlo]

Nobody who actually watches the cruserweight division honestly believes that he's on the level of those guys I just named unless they're running witness protection for Canelo

[TernceBudCharlo]

Also you need to not take it so personal, I already said I give Canelo a lot of credit for taking the Joe Smith fight, that takes a lot of balls for someone 5'7 who started at 140 to take a fight like that.

[Clegg]

Roy winning that belt has come to mean less as time has gone on. Because although belts can help sell a fight and make it seem more meaningful at the time, once the dust settles it becomes more about who you beat. Still an impressive achievement, better than what Canelo has planned as it was at HW not CW. Also, if Roy stayed at HW his main rivals would be Lennox and Vitali, who were excellent fighters and massive guys. If Canelo fought the top CW it would be Breidis who is not as good as Lennox/Vitali and nowhere near as big. A lot more reasonable to ask Canelo to fight the best guy at CW than to ask Roy to face Lennox Lewis.

I dunno about all the hater stuff. Canelo deserves full credit for unifying 168, and I'd pick him over the 175 guys. But he is going up against the weakest champ in Makabu, and he went up against the weakest champ in Kovalev.

[Clegg]

He is ranked in the top 10 by the ring but I've seen him fight many times along with many other cruiserweight. He dint even enter any of the 2 super 6s because he knows he gets his ass beat by all those guys, Breides, Dorticos, Tabiti, Masternak, Huck, Glowacki, Gassiev, Hunter, I don't even know if he beats Mchunu again the second time.

Cieslak was the only respectable opponent Makabu ever fought at cruiser and even he just fought bums.

Also Tony Bellew was a light heavyweight, a total fraud at cruiserweight, but he still beat the **** out of Makabu.

Skill wise and resume use Makabu is not better than any those guys I named.

Not in the top 10 is too harsh imo. Makabu beats Tabiti and Glowacki. I haven't seen Masternak in a while but he also lost to Bellew who you say is a fraud. The division isn't that deep.

Gassiev, Hunter, Huck all moved up ages ago.

[TernceBudCharlo]

Not in the top 10 is too harsh imo. Makabu beats Tabiti and Glowacki. I haven't seen Masternak in a while but he also lost to Bellew who you say is a fraud. The division isn't that deep.

Gassiev, Hunter, Huck all moved up ages ago.

I think he gets humiliated by Tabiti and Glowacki but we can agree to disagree.

On Masternak, the Bellew fight was close. However Makabu got murdered by Bellew.

There's at least 15 cruiserweghts I can name who I think ether defintley would or would have a good shot of beating Makabu, and plenty of guys at 175 and below. Again Bellew was garbage at 175 and he moved up and made it look easy against Makabu. Just imagine what Bivol or Beterbiev would do to him.