Comments Thread For: Demetrius Andrade May Head To 168 For Bigger Fights, Says Hearn

[Drock87]

canelo, charlo brothers, golovkin and munguia won't fight him. benavidez is going the wbc route at 168. the only other "name" fighter at 160 and 168 is lara, who is avoided himself. either fight lara, fight stay busy fights and accumulate money or retire. those are his options. i guess he can wait one or two more years and move up to fight zach parker or someone else for the vacant wbo title. that way he could become a 3 division beltholder but meh.

I think Benevidez will fight him for a vacant WBO title. If he goes to 168, that's the fight that has to be made

[Drock87]

I’ve watched his last three fights, I have DAZN so why not I guess.

Something about him that just makes me not give a **** about his fights. He’s just not entertaining or I don’t know. I think it’s how he boxes, kind of awkward looking hooks.

It always feels like I’m watching an ESPN Friday Night Fights when his fights are going on.

So you just like rock em sock em robots fights??? Andrade is very entertaining with crazy angles and superb uppercuts.
who style of fight is entertaining??? Certainly not GGG, Mungia has pretty good speed and combinations. Canelo is pretty predictable, left hook to the body over and over and right hand uppercut.
Or maybe you like thise UK fighters. Please make it make sense???

[Drock87]

“The narrative around WBO middleweight champion Demetrius Andrade remains that the career-defining fight continues to escape him.

Rival promoters, as well as fighters Canelo Alvarez, Jermall Charlo, Gennadiy Golovkin and Jaime Munguia, have seemingly stiff-armed the undefeated American, calling into question his marketability.”

If journalists are going to insist and constantly repeat this “narrative” like a broken record, might as well mention what started it all. Demetrius ducked Lara and Charlo. He’s a duck. Plain and simple. Stop acting like he didn’t already blatantly duck the best names he could have fought.

Andrade pulls out of Charlo fight one month before fight night, because of a random offer from Roc Nation telling him to pull out in return for more money. Andrade obliged, leaving the 3 fight agreement with HBO and Star Boxing, and Roc Nation gave him nothing. Andrade sued Roc Nation then drops suit 2 year later after realizing his case was frivolous:

“Andrade, who also named longtime boxing attorney and former Roc Nation consultant Jeff Fried in the suit filed July 31, claims that Roc Nation Sports, which was interested in buying his promotional contract from co-promoters Joe DeGuardia's Star Boxing and Artie Pelullo's Banner Promotions, promised him the money if he refused to take part in a title defense arranged by DeGuardia and Pelullo. They had negotiated an agreement for Andrade to defend his 154-pound world title against Jermell Charlo on Dec. 13, on a Showtime-televised card at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. His purse would have been $550,000, and the fight would have been the first on a three-fight deal they negotiated with the network.”

"After Andrade performed his obligations under the agreement by rejecting the fight, Roc Nation reneged on its promise to pay Andrade the $550,000," the suit said.”

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/...-nation-sports


Andrade on fighting Lara: Demetrius Andrade: Lara a Last Resort, I’d Fight Jack Culcay

”I don’t know. If that’s the last resort, then yeah, I’m going to take the fight,” he said.

“He won’t engage or try and make the fight entertaining, especially if it’s coming into my favor,” Andrade explained. “He’s just going to survive, try to run, try to do the little pitty-pat counter punches. I’m not about that right now. I’m about sitting in there, doing what I need to do best, and letting the fans know that I’m willing to get in there with anybody and put on a show and make ends meet.”

Interestingly, while Andrade doesn’t want the WBA “super” titleholder in Lara, he would be OK with facing the secondary titleholder, Jack Culcay, who holds the sanctioning body’s “regular" belt. Andrade doesn’t know much about Culcay.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/amp/deme...culcay--106350

Andrade on fighting Lara and Charlo:

“Competition is at 54 but I would go to 160 but I’m not going to 160 to face the Charlos, I’m over that phase.” - Demetrius Andrade

“It takes two to see the man in action,” Andrade told BoxingScene.com. "The Lara vs Andrade thing is getting old. We are we supposed to wait until September to start negotiating when we both been out since March. We could have fought already, so what are we waiting for? Boy is 35 years old with a cane like 'hey son how you doing.” - Demetrius Andrade

https://www.boxingscene.com/amp/andr...ld-man--119190

Demetrius Andrade fcked himself over multiple times. While Canelo Alvarez accepted Erislandy Lara’s challenge, Andrade was too good and too exciting for Lara. That guys deserves to be ignored for the rest of his career. He fcked over Charlo, HBO, Star Boxing and Banner. Wanted no part of Lara either.

Drop that fcking ****** narrative that he’s ducked or avoided. That dude is dumb, greedy, and full of sh/t and is now paying for his ******ity.

It's hilarious how you quote what you want to quote. He would not have gotten $550,000 for the Charlo fight. Showtime side of course would try to smear his name. Even if the 500k is true, it's still cool to pay a challenger $800,000 with no resume himself???

Your argument of the narrative is flawed by bias. Either way, offering Jermall $7 million to fight now kinds of dispel your argument. But you are trying to claim he would duck again now right???

Andrade made mistakes, but that's because he chose not to follow the establishment and has been black balled early in his career. And you still didn't give an account to the other times he was ducked by Canelo and GGG. But it's a BS narrative right???

[Boxing fan1981]

So you just like rock em sock em robots fights??? Andrade is very entertaining with crazy angles and superb uppercuts.
who style of fight is entertaining??? Certainly not GGG, Mungia has pretty good speed and combinations. Canelo is pretty predictable, left hook to the body over and over and right hand uppercut.
Or maybe you like thise UK fighters. Please make it make sense???

Yes, he’s so entertaining he has more fans than Canelo.

[TernceBudCharlo]

Yes, he’s so entertaining he has more fans than Canelo.

Andrade's fights are very entertaining and personally I find Canelo's style very very boring. Very slow feet, slowly walks people down, doesn't throw that many punches, but the punches that he does throw are very fast and accurate with good power. Good head movement and is tough to hit coming it. But poor conditioning and you'll never see him throw a lot.

He's one of the best fighters in boxing but I don't find his fights exciting, they're pretty boring. Demetrius Andrade is more exciting, Roman Gonzalez and Estrada are way more entertaining then them all.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

So he should do what ? Call out all the fighters that matter. Canelo, Jacob’s, Charlo, Benavides even. The entire boxing world knows Benevidez is the boogey man that Canelo and Charlo are scared to death of. And Andrade just went to the WBC and WBO and even begged them for that fight ! Andrade isn’t the one running from them. You’ve got it backwards. He even offered to fight Bivol ! So yea he may never get to fight any one of them until he’s 36 and they know they can beat him but make no mistake about it everyone is afraid of Andrade and everyone is afraid of Benevidez. And for good reason.

How about fight legitimate contenders instead of just feasting on D level opposition and chasing paydays.

All I hear is the same excuses I’ve been hearing for 8 years. It’s laughable.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

How is Janibek a tough fight??? From what I see, Williams is a tougher out then Janibek. Janibek is a good boxer but he won't outbox Andrade, surely you know that. If you could give me an honest analysis, it would bode well to show that you might not just be a bias clown.

He’s ranked top 10. That’s better than 90% of Andrade’s opponents.

[SunDiego-]

Lmao who didn’t see this coming

The “most” avoided fighter in the game has to defend his belt the only leverage he has against an ok fighter and instead of taking the fight he ends up dropping it and moving divisions

Who at 168 has a secondary belt? Preferably an euro level fighter for the “Boogeyman” to feast on

[-Kev-]

It's hilarious how you quote what you want to quote. He would not have gotten $550,000 for the Charlo fight. Showtime side of course would try to smear his name. Even if the 500k is true, it's still cool to pay a challenger $800,000 with no resume himself???

Your argument of the narrative is flawed by bias. Either way, offering Jermall $7 million to fight now kinds of dispel your argument. But you are trying to claim he would duck again now right???

Andrade made mistakes, but that's because he chose not to follow the establishment and has been black balled early in his career. And you still didn't give an account to the other times he was ducked by Canelo and GGG. But it's a BS narrative right???

GGG fought Jacobs and Canelo twice. GGG also took every fight he could vs any name he could. GGG was ducked by Sturm, Quillin, Martinez and Cotto. Boo hoo. It happens to a lot of fighters. They are avoided because they don’t have a name. They make a name by fighting anyone.

Canelo fought Trout, Lara, GGG twice, and Jacobs.

Do you know what Canelo and GGG have done that Andrade has not? They have fought good fighters when ever possible. Canelo even fought fighters he was accused of ducking.

Andrade hasn’t done that.

His $7million offer means nothing to anyone. What part don’t you understand that no one will do business with Andrade because he is bad business? Untrustworthy. He is 34 years old with nothing to show for. He isn’t dangerous. He isn’t amazing. His best opponent, Vanes Martirosyan, beat him 112-115 on one scorecard and knocked him down. Andrade managed to win just 114-113 on 1 scorecard. And a bogus 117-110 scorecard. That’s his career highlight. Jack Culkay beat him on a scorecard as well. Alantez Fox dropped him. Struggling vs unknown fighters is what he is known for. How he is he going to impress any big name fighter by getting dropped by Alantez Fox and losing scorecards to Vanes and Culkay? How?

He’s a trash fighter. You’re rooting for a sh/t fighter who has shown nothing to root for. There’s literally nothing to root for him. He isn’t a KO artist. He isn’t a master boxer who wins 120-108 UD’s. His chance to show he takes on all comers had passed. He failed at everything. He should have maybe chased a rap career where mediocrity nowadays is the sh/t.

[Doubledagger]

You don’t have a clue !!!

he never Turned down Charlo twice. In face he never signed the contract to fight him the first time because of the Jay Z thing that the entire world knows. Then 3 weeks after the Initial offer Andrade Did sign the contract to fight Jermell Charlo and it was Al Haymon that stopped it and CHARLO REFUSED!!!

He never had a second chance to fight Charlo ever. Then Showtime promised him a fight with Erislandy Lara and he Waited for 8 months for Showtime to do the fight !!! Finally Showtime told him Haymon would t let Lara fight him and he should go to Germany and fight Culcay and THATS WHEN ANDRADE SAID THE HELL WITH LARA AND TOOK THE FIGHT !!!

Recently he’s tried to unify with Charlo and force the mandatory. Haymon again stopped it. Then he even went to The WBO and WBC and asked them to Make Benevidez mandatory and they both agreed but ONLY IF Benevidez side would agree to take it. Which they refused. What should he do next ??? He’s literally done everything he could possibly do since 2014 to force a fight with somebody big and still you guys crucify him

Everything you just said is made up BS.

JAYZ first of all didn't force Andrade to do shieet nor did he have the power to.

Jayz made Andrade and offer that Andrade didn't have to accept. He could have continued with the Charlo fight that was signed already but he refused and made some lame excuse about an offer from Jayz, an offer mind you that was never confirmed by anyone else except Andrade himself, an offer that he could have refused and chosen to honor his agreement to fight Charlo.

And the fact you don't know that he did get a second chance to fight Charlo just shows that you don't know shieet about what you talking about.

When Mayweather retired, he obviously dropped his 154lb wbc title.

So the wbc organized a tournament. In the tournament, Charlo had to fight John Jackson for the wbc title, and Andrade had to fight Willie Nelson as a title eliminator, the winner of which gets to become Mandatory to the winner of Charlo and Johnson.

Charlo won and became wbc title, and Andrade beat Nelson and became the second mandatory to Charlo.

Why second mandatory?

the wbc rules state that when you win a vacant title, you get two mandatory challenges in order to solidify you as the true champion, or to legitimize you (the rule is clearly made to get rid of the paper title stigma of vacant title winners).

So Charlo had two mandatories as a result, Charles Hatley, and Demetrius Andrade.

Charlo beat Hatley, and Andrade ducked and went to fignt Jack Culcay for the wba regular.

This is a historical fact that you can never change, because it happened.

It also happened that Andrade moved up to 160lbs two weeks after the wba announced negotiation orders for him to fight Lara.

That aint even the end of it, lol.

Yo boy immeidately duckec Derevyanchenko after moving up to 160lbs.

Chenko called him out multiple times and even sent him a contract three times.

Andrade didn't respond.

Then came back and said he was visiting his grand parents and didn't have enough time to prepare.

Facts.