After Martin, I wanna see Usyk vs Luis Ortiz

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  • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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    #11
    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF

    Well, it was. I even got a nice letter from the WBC thanking me for the concept and inviting me to dinner. I saved it in case anyone here is ever dumb enough to bet me on whether I really came up with the idea or not.
    Sure you have…

    Any proof? Or nah?

    Spare me the bullsh** mate.

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      #12
      Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

      Sure you have…

      Any proof? Or nah?

      Spare me the bullsh** mate.
      Well yes, I literally just told you I have proof.

      If you're asking me to publicly post private documents where my identity would be revealed and my relationship with the WBC would be compromised, when there's absolutely nothing for me to gain, no, I'm not interested in that.

      If you're calling me a liar and you're so certain you're correct that you're willing to bet on it, there's definitely a sum at which I would gladly consider drawing up contracts, NDAs, etc and proving to you that I'm telling the truth.

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        #13
        Usyk can't handle the Ortiz shuffle, as long as Luis doesn't forget to take his asthma inhaler with him, I can't see anything other than a 12-0 masterclass from the Cuban slickster.

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          #14
          Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF

          Well yes, I literally just told you I have proof.

          If you're asking me to publicly post private documents where my identity would be revealed and my relationship with the WBC would be compromised, when there's absolutely nothing for me to gain, no, I'm not interested in that.

          If you're calling me a liar and you're so certain you're correct that you're willing to bet on it, there's definitely a sum at which I would gladly consider drawing up contracts, NDAs, etc and proving to you that I'm telling the truth.
          You really think you’re worth betting on?

          Do you not realise how many guys like you are pretending to be a somebody on the internet.

          I actually think you’re a decent poster man, with good knowledge but just spare me the bullsh**. Nobody believes you.

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            #15
            Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF

            Well yes, I literally just told you I have proof.

            If you're asking me to publicly post private documents where my identity would be revealed and my relationship with the WBC would be compromised, when there's absolutely nothing for me to gain, no, I'm not interested in that.

            If you're calling me a liar and you're so certain you're correct that you're willing to bet on it, there's definitely a sum at which I would gladly consider drawing up contracts, NDAs, etc and proving to you that I'm telling the truth.
            Isnt the purpose of your account to explain how the sanctioning bodies work? The account would gain legitimacy if its confirmed to have real connections to the abc organisations.

            I like the rules for unified mandatories. The rotation system never made sense for me, just too easy to target an easy route and wait until it's your turn.

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              #16
              Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
              You really think you’re worth betting on?
              No, I don't. But I post on enough sites about enough topics and frustrate enough people, that people do bet me 2-3 times a year. I make a nice little chunk of change each year from constantly challenging people to bets. Only need a couple people to say yes for it to be worth it.


              Do you not realise how many guys like you are pretending to be a somebody on the internet.
              Yes of course. That's exactly what makes people so frustrated and ultimately gets a few of them to bet. 99.999% of people on the internet are full of ****. So most people never consider for a second that I might actually be telling the truth, even though I am. We're just playing poker here. I know what my cards are, other people don't. They assume my cards are ****, I know they're not. But I'm not showing my cards without something at stake. It doesn't work like that. Call my bluff if you think I'm bluffing.


              I actually think you’re a decent poster man, with good knowledge but just spare me the bullsh**. Nobody believes you.
              It's not bull****. If you really don't believe me, just bet me. You'll make a lot of money if you're right.

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                #17
                Originally posted by asgarth
                Isnt the purpose of your account to explain how the sanctioning bodies work? The account would gain legitimacy if its confirmed to have real connections to the abc organisations.
                But I'm not authorized to speak on behalf of the organizations and I don't speak on their behalf. I'm just familiar with the inner workings and have connections. Connections I would lose if I started posting private documents.

                The very fact that I'm always right about the sanctioning bodies should be all the proof you need. Everyone was saying Spence vs Ugas wasn't going to happen, that the WBA had ordered this fight or that fight. Yet here I was insisting Spence vs Ugas was happening next, even as others were "reporting" that Ugas had agreed to fight someone else. It's funny how everyone calls me a liar, but then never apologizes when I'm proven right.


                I like the rules for unified mandatories. The rotation system never made sense for me, just too easy to target an easy route and wait until it's your turn.
                Unified mandatories has been a great passion of mine for many years. I really never thought it would happen. I'm absolutely thrilled that it's finally going to be instituted. I agree with you that the rotation system never made sense. It just allowed a unified champion to ditch a belt, paint the mandatory as a paper champion and turn the public against him. Imagine if Lennox Lewis had been unified mandatory. Bowe wouldn't have been able to duck him because Bowe wouldn't have wanted to trash all of his belts. Same thing when Tyson ducked Lewis and dropped the WBC. If Lewis had also been WBA mandatory, Tyson wouldn't have been able to duck him.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF

                  My dear friend Redeemer, you are mistaken. I hope we can still be friends. I'm sure you made an honest mistake and I hope you won't start insulting me for helping you.

                  The most recent WBO mandatory (Usyk) was September 25, 2021. The most recent IBF mandatory (Pulev) was December 12, 2020. The most recent WBA mandatory (Povetkin) was September 22, 2018.

                  The WBA mandatory is next in the rotation.

                  I hope you appreciate the time I spend studying the sanctioning bodies. I'm sure you have a full and rich life. A job. A wife. Children. Hobbies. Religious services. Charity events. It wouldn't be reasonable to expect you to be an expert on boxing sanctioning bodies. So there's no shame in making an innocent mistake. Hope you have a great evening.
                  The WBA ? You know Helenius is fighting Fury right ? That is the WBA mandatory. Sorry friend you are incorrect again . It will be the IBF which was explained to you . And even if it’s not Helenius I can assure you the WBA sanctions is all over the place ,the IBF will be next before them .

                  I hope you have no shame I’m sure you don’t you just continue to act like a Jack ass on here .
                  Last edited by REDEEMER; 12-29-2021, 01:21 PM.

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                    #19
                    Ortiz would be stretchered out after about 6 rounds when his ticker finally calls it a day. I remember how he was dealing with Malik Scott's "elusiveness" in the ring, I can't imagine how he'd handle Usyk.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by REDEEMER
                      The WBA ? You know Helenius is fighting Fury right ? That is the WBA mandatory. Sorry friend you are incorrect again . It will be the IBF which was explained to you . And even if it’s not Helenius I can assure you the WBA sanctions is all over the place ,the IBF will be next before them .
                      My dear friend Redeemer, once again you are mistaken. The WBA absolutely is next in the rotation. I'm sure you have a very full life with loved ones, hobbies and other interests, so you're probably not intimately familiar with the details of the rotation system. Pulev got his shot after Povetkin, so it absolutely is the WBA's turn next.

                      Helenius isn't the WBA mandatory. Once again, you are mistaken. The WBA mandatory will be the winner of the Bryan-Charr world heavyweight title fight. When the WBA mandatory is due, the Super WBA world heavyweight champion will have to defend against the WBA world heavyweight champion. Helenius is rated #3 and isn't the mandatory.

                      Instead of getting aggressive with me and insulting me, I hope you will show some appreciation for the knowledge I have bestowed upon you.

                      If you are still vehemently convinced that the IBF mandatory will be called before the WBA mandatory, I am absolutely willing to place a large wager on the matter. Hopefully you're not the type to hide behind a computer screen and spout things you're not willing to stand behind in real life.

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