Comments Thread For: Hearn Ready To Match Benn With Broner, Guerrero - But Not Avanesyan Just Yet

[Oregonian]

Ennis had a much more solid amateur grounding, no? I wonder who Ennis fought on his 20th fight. And where will Benn be 8 fights from now? Benn can go after Ennis when he's ready. He's not ready. At at no time did I even mention Ennis. That was you. So if your an Ennis fan ( and I suspect you are ), shouldn't you be looking forward, instead of backwards to see if Benn is coming? That's what Ennis is doing. If his fans shared his confidence maybe they'd do the same.

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I mentioned Ennis to counter your point that Benn isn’t ready. Ennis is younger than Benn and both have similar amateur backgrounds but now you’re saying that Ennis is better because he has 8 more fights.
That logic is super flawed. If Ennis had the same number of fights as Benn he would still beat Benn.
Look at Lomachenko’s record. He has very few fights yet beats guys with way more fights than him.
Ennis has not called out Benn at all. He’s calling out all the belt holders at WW. All of them.

Benn will NEVER call out Ennis. I can assure you if that. He can fight 8 more times he still won’t beat Ennis.
But, when do you suppose Benn will be ready for Ennis or even Crawford? In 8 fights?

[Oregonian]

He had 61 amateur fights won the golden gloves gold, silver and a youth gold in Reno vs Benn's 22 amateur fights and no such accolades and boot's also has had more pro experience as well.

They're not at all equivalent, they're in fact worlds apart and it's quite naive to think they're in anyway similar in terms of experience.

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Benn’s father was a former world champion and in the HoF. They had the best trainers from the get go but, that aside, when do you suppose Benn will be ready for Ennis or Crawford or even Shawn Porter? In 8 fights ?

[Oregonian]

Floyd had an impressive amateur career before turning pro. This kid has been learning on the job and has actually improved and continues to do so. Why the rush.

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Floyd win his first title in 1998 at 21 years old. He turned pro at 19 years old. So all the experience he had was as a teenager. Basically a kid.
Benn is 25 years old. How long and how many fights do you reckon he’s ready to face some solid names?
Benn will beat Guerrero and Broner. We all know that. It’s a farce of a fight. There are better guys he can test himself against. That’s all we are saying. Brits have this tendency of building up some washed up American boxer to enhance their image.

Hatton did that with Castillo (not American but big in the US among Latinos). A washed up guy that was way past his prime. He then called outFloyd only to he busted up. That’s what we foresee with Benn.

[JakeTheBoxer]

No he doesn't. Stop lying.

Well, Dulorme and Lipinets are clearly some killers, lol. You stop lying, casual.

[joseph5620]

Well, Dulorme and Lipinets are clearly some killers, lol. You stop lying, casual.

Lipnets was better than anybody Benn has fought, you lying casual. So was Hooker and Mean Machine. So either you're a casual or you're just ******.

[Rodtang]

You said it yourself, “building his experience and profile” , not world championship material yet, he looked like trash against Adrien Granados

Yeah, he isn't championship level yet. And its not been claimed otherwise. In fact Hearn has stated that there's still a couple of levels to go. And I'd agree with that assessment. It wasn't so much that Benn looked trash against Granados, but more a case of Granados not engaging and getting on his bike all night. It's doesn't make for an entertaining fight. It's hard to look good against someone who runs from you all night. And the most frustrating thing was, that in the build up Granados made lots of claims of bringing the heat and putting Benn under pressure he's never seen before. That's not what he brought on fight night. Benn still won that fight easily and looked as good as you can against a fighter like that. Granados won a round, maybe 2 if I'm generous. Algieri at least came to fight ( as he always does ) and that showed what Benn is capable of. And Algieri may not be as good as a few years back, but he at least was a live dog, and Benn got the chance to gain more experience and show improvements. He's still behind Ennis and Ortiz for sure, but not as much as people try to make out. These are the top 3 guys to challenge the top tier, but Benn still got some work to do.

[Rodtang]

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I mentioned Ennis to counter your point that Benn isn’t ready. Ennis is younger than Benn and both have similar amateur backgrounds but now you’re saying that Ennis is better because he has 8 more fights.
That logic is super flawed. If Ennis had the same number of fights as Benn he would still beat Benn.
Look at Lomachenko’s record. He has very few fights yet beats guys with way more fights than him.
Ennis has not called out Benn at all. He’s calling out all the belt holders at WW. All of them.

Benn will NEVER call out Ennis. I can assure you if that. He can fight 8 more times he still won’t beat Ennis.
But, when do you suppose Benn will be ready for Ennis or even Crawford? In 8 fights?

I've never claimed Benn to be better than Ennis. Again, it was you that brought his name up, not I. And I'm not saying Benn will be better than Ennis after 8 more fights. Please don't try to twist what I'm saying. All I said was, where will he be in another 8 fights. That's a suggestion that he will be more experienced and with that perhaps a better fighter. But that's not to say he will be better than Ennis, and I didn't claim he would be. The point I was making originally, in response to someone else's comment, was that Benn is way behind a lot of fighters mentioned ( some past, some present ), in terms of experience for his age. I've made no claims on Benn being better than anyone. And to say that Ennis and Benns amatuer experience is about the same is not correct either. Benn had a handful of fights over in Austria. Ennis has medaled a few times in the golden gloves and also in the USA national youth championships. You mention Loma, but that just backs up my comments. Loma has vast amateur experience, meaning he can fight at a much higher level in much less fights. I'm sure if Benn had around 400 amateur fights he'd be doing the same. But he doesn't. And that's my point. And I've never claimed Ennis has called Benn out. That's because he hasn't. It's his fans that keep putting both their names in the same sentence. So again, my point on that is perhaps his fans need to look forward as he is doing. You said it yourself he's calling out the beltholders. And so he should. But his fans need to get on the same wavelength and look forward, and stop fretting about what Benn is doing. Their obsession with Benn is pathetic, and he is clearly living in their heads rent free. In a nutshell.

[Tony Green]

I dont want it either. Id much rather he was fighting Avanesyan and i believe he beats him. All im saying is that i fully understand why its an option for them and in the long run it makes sense to build his profile, for potentially bigger fights down the line. I'll tolerate it for a couple of fights for the greater good to his career, but he'll need stepping up soon.

I've been saying exactly this consistently, he is being handled carefully but that's because he's almost been beaten by peynaud, who is a nobody, his recent performances have shown massive improvements and frightening power, I have no problem with him fighting broner or Guerrero at this point in his career. But for some reason benn has really rubbed ppl up the wrong way, he has way more haters than fans on this board and I think it's partially down to ppl thinking he's been gifted everything due to his hof father and not earned it, these are the same ppl who hate on ben Davison for no reason other than they are jealous of what position he's now in and feel he doesn't deserve it, I think it's time for some guys on here start acknowledging that benn has now earned his spot in the boxing world, don't hate for jelly reasons, actually have a valid reason if your gonna hate the guy

[MeanestNiceGuy]

Wake up you casual and realize that Broner and Guerrero are a step back from Algieri I guess the only thing they have in common is they are all semi-retired fighters.

Stop it. Guerrero and Broner are NAMES for Benn! I know I made that clear! And don't act like Algieri's on the level of a Guerrero and Broner when it comes to names. Benn needs it. Get over yourself.

[MeanestNiceGuy]

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How exactly would a Guerrero and Broner fight prepare Benn for Spence or Crawford or even Boots? Let’s say he does beat both guys, do you think he’d beat the guys I just listed?

The NAMES! I can't say that enough. The guy will have those names on his resume. He didn't have much of an amateur career from what I see and washed up names from the US are like gold for fighters across the pond. No arguing that.

And why do yall keep throwing Boots' name out there like he's somebody right now?

He and Benn have had the same level of competition thus far, so why is he this world beater all of a sudden? I swear, boxing fans claim they're so plugged in but start this same LOSER fantasy fight argument to make themselves feel better when they KNOW these fights don't just "happen" as easily as fans rattle them off.

Stop it.