Comments Thread For: Luis Ortiz: I Don't Know Why Other Heavyweights Avoid Me

[GlassJoey]

Not quite how you're making it sound, he had two abysmal performances against Dave Allen and Malik Scott then pissed hot and got removed from the WBA/O (can't remember) rankings no one was scared of Ortiz, PBC have done a good job of making an absolute pudding who's accomplished nothing as an amateur or pro seem like a boogeyman.

Amen to this. Malik Scott wasn’t totally his fault though.

[PRINCEKOOL]

High risk, low reward.

-He doesn't speak English
-Is Cuban, not Mexican or Puerto Rican, meaning his potential for a fanbase among Spanish-speaking Americans is much smaller
-If you beat him, nobody will give you credit because he's fat and old
-If he beats you, again, he's fat and old
-He's got a lot of skill and knockout power
-Has tested positive before, meaning he could be a risk to cheat again and/or get a fight axed because of another positive

Take short money to fight a fat old man that might cheat and/or simply whoop your ass straight up? Most fighters are going to say, "no thanks" to that.

Fighters are apprehensive of facing Ortiz, because he is still a potentially good fighter.

But fighters and fans of fighters will still hide behind pushing stereotypes regarding Luis Ortiz.

Even still right now at this stage of his career, Luiz Ortiz is a high risk fight, but with low reward due to 'The negative societal stereotypes that surround veteran fighters'.

When Deontay Wilder beat Luis Ortiz, those two wins are highly underrated. Those wins are better than 95% of Tyson Fury's wins on his record 'Only really Kiltschko is a better win, that is it'.

Alexander Povetkin was a high risk fighter, right until the end of his career. He was not in the best condition for his last fight, but? He was clearly in solid condition when he fought Whyte in their first fight 'Taking all of that into account, it was impressive the way Whyte without any hesitation wanted to pursue the rematch'.

I have no idea what kind of form Ortiz is in now, but if he gets in the condition he was up against Wilder 'That is a very capable fighter'.

Note: Fighters these days want the respect and validation from he fans, but? When it is all said and done. Not all fans are experts. The fighters deep down, know who is who in the sport. Ultimately fighters should only really care just a little what their follow competitors think. It is clear that fighters are still weary of Luis Ortiz, therefor if Charles Martin beats Ortiz? That is a big win for him.

If you are a honest fighter, and you face the best. I think the game has a way of balancing itself out.

[Boxing Scene]

Looks like Wilder didn't avoid you and he smoked your ass twice.

[REDEEMER]

Looks like Wilder didn't avoid you and he smoked your ass twice.

Wilder only took that one because he thought he was older then what was reported . Wilders team also did not let him take his meds ,he actually failed a physical before fighting Wilder the day of .

That being said no one has ever fought a prime Ortiz except maybe Jennings in 2015 which didn’t go so good for him but he was also coming off a loss to Klitschko so we don’t know where his head was at being thrown to the wolves .

[nixxter]

This fake boogeyman declined fights with Takam, Wallin and Joyce just this year, and he could have faced Hrigovic as well in an IBF eliminator yet he's still crying about being ducked. He was hooting and hollering about Joshua ducking him and stating he would fight him for free anytime anywhere yet when he was offered 7+ million and a chance to fight for 4 titles he shat his pants.

This guy has only one credible win (Jennings) in his whole professional career and achieved nothing internationally in a long amateur career, yet he is being hyped as some slick dangerous super skilled southpaw that everyone is avoiding.

Martin, as bad as he is, will probably knock this fool out and send him into retirement.

[tokon]

It's cuz everytime somebody wants to fight you Luis your handlers find a way of blowing it off and then lie to you about why.

Joshua fight as a prime example.

I wonder how many people actually have a piece of him

[PRINCEKOOL]

Wilder only took that one because he thought he was older then what was reported . Wilders team also did not let him take his meds ,he actually failed a physical before fighting Wilder the day of .

That being said no one has ever fought a prime Ortiz except maybe Jennings in 2015 which didn’t go so good for him but he was also coming off a loss to Klitschko so we don’t know where his head was at being thrown to the wolves .

You don't know what was going on inside Wilder's mind 'All that matter is that he took the fight, and won twice'.

Underrated win for Deontay Wilder.

Ortiz was in shape for Wilder, that was clear.

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You don't know what was going on inside Wilder's mind 'All that matter is that he took the fight, and won twice'.

Underrated win for Deontay Wilder.

Ortiz was in shape for Wilder, that was clear.

Well his team admitted it nonchalantly and so did he in the same way . He even asked Ortiz what his real age was sitting there during the post press conference so yea I actually do know .the motives for Wilder to do a complete 360 and change his mind and take the Ortiz fight .

Ortiz didn’t pass a physical. He can be in shape all he wants it’s apparent he’s going to have stamina issues due to his condition if he’s getting hit ir has to work a fast paced you can’t change that it’s just a fact , it’s why he’s struggling to get legit finishes late in fights to .

[PRINCEKOOL]

Well his team admitted it nonchalantly and so did he in the same way . He even asked Ortiz what his real age was sitting there during the post press conference so yea I actually do know .

Ortiz didn’t pass a physical. He can be in shape all he wants it’s apparent he’s going to have stamina issues due to his condition if he’s getting hit ir has to work a fast paced you can’t change that it’s just a fact , it’s why he’s struggling to get legit finishes late in fights to .

That was just back and fourth banter, the only important thing is 'Wilder faced Ortiz Twice and beat him'. Looked in condition to me and fought as if he was also 'No idea why he failed a medical, was it down to a fitness test? I doubt it' I actual test of fitness etc

Tyson Fury thinks Dillian Whyte a dosser and easy fight, all of his fans think he is easy due to being stopped by Povetkin 'It all means nothing, why? Because Tyson Fury has not faced or beaten Dillian Whyte'.

Wilder faced the boogeyman of the heavyweight division twice and beat him.

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That was just back and fourth banter, the only important thing is 'Wilder faced Ortiz Twice and beat him'. Looked in condition to me and fought as if he was also 'No idea why he failed a medical, was it down to a fitness test? I doubt it'.

Tyson Fury thinks Dillian Whyte a dosser and easy fight, all of his fans think he is easy due to being stopped by Povetkin 'It all means nothing, why? Because Tyson Fury has not faced or beaten Dillian Whyte'.

Wilder faced the boogeyman of the heavyweight division twice and beat him.

Wilder faced Ortiz a second time after seeing him struggle with Hammer where he was almost dropped in the second round and bloodied up against a Journeyman with limited power . In fact he made the Ortiz fight right away after it .

Wheather you believe Wilder took the fight because he thought Ortiz was much older is on you it’s basically common sense ,he admitted it if you watched the post fight presser .


Tyson Fury not facing Whyte has nothing to do with Wilder . If it was an easy fight you know Fury would take it unless he’s seen something or knows something we don’t heading into a Whyte fight because stylistically it’s a dangerous fight for him .


The boogeyman that declines fights ,runs off mandates positions ? If anything most don’t fight him because he doesn’t make actual offers he sits around waiting to be called out which again rarely works and a high risk low reward to guys outside the top 5 at least .

I hope you are drinking some spiked egg nog or something right now because normal people don’t believe Ortiz is any type of boogeyman so I’ll give you a pass since it’s X Mas ,I thought you were smarter then that .