Comments Thread For: Luis Ortiz: I Don't Know Why Other Heavyweights Avoid Me

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  • REDEEMER
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    #11
    Originally posted by DaNeutral.
    It's cuz everytime somebody wants to fight you Luis your handlers find a way of blowing it off and then lie to you about why.
    He’s already caught his team lying to him with that A.J situation where Ruiz ended up getting the fight . He really can’t be the sharpest tool in the shed ,I really hope Martin wins and at least puts an end to this charade as well but it’s unlikely but not improbable.
    Last edited by REDEEMER; 12-25-2021, 06:30 AM.

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    • leeroy84
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      #12
      Seven million Luis......

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      • KP1
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        #13
        They don’t, it’s a myth, like an actual proven myth.

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        • P to the J
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          #14
          Originally posted by famicommander

          Ortiz already had a Wilder rematch in his back pocket when he turned down the Joshua fight. It's not like he turned down a title shot to fight a bum, he turned down a title shot to face the other champion because he wanted revenge. He got hit with that Saiyan pride. Took the harder fight and got KTFO again.
          Agree with most, here, particularly the DBZ reference.

          Was it the harder fight though? I’m supposing what you’re saying is that he’s more likely to get KTFO by Wilder. Just can’t see him outboxing Joshua in the same manner.

          Actually stopping Joshua? Not denying that possibility

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          • P to the J
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            #15
            Originally posted by Sayithowitisuk

            Did he F!
            Rematchroom signed Ortiz for Aj until Mcracken & the team took one look & said nah, no way, nope, uh uhh, noooo.
            Ortiz begged for the Aj fight but pbc had Ortiz already lined up for Wilder 2 to line they're own pockets. The Dazn Wilder offer forced pbc to match the offer so they needed in house.

            Like you said about Aj, appeared.
            Looks in his case are very deceiving, look closer & you'll see 4 of 6 were 38-41 year's old and shot before Usyk, it's no coincidence the last 2 he boxed of his own generation both beat him. Lost 2 in 4, he doesn't deserve another shot.

            Denying us undesputed for the 3rd time. 2018 ducked Wilder, 2019 blocked Wilder Ruiz with Rematchroom clauses, 2021 blocked Fury Usyk with Rematchroom clauses.

            Your not 2 times if it's only half time.

            Hold on a second, 1) Ortiz was in the age range that Joshua’s mandatories were (in fact, he was a mandatory till he went elsewhere)

            and 2) would McCracken really have been discombobulated by Ortiz vs. Allen/Scott?

            Nothing against his skills but in the latter instance, particularly, the opponent was there to be sparked all fight, but Ortiz looked unable to cut the ring off, to me. Hardly Earth-shattering performances (unless he was keeping some in the tank to secure the fight, ofc)

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            • PBR Streetgang
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              #16
              As I recall both Joyce and Wallin attempted to get fights with Ortiz and his team's phone went silent when it was time to call them back.

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              • Nash out
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                #17
                Originally posted by PBR Streetgang
                As I recall both Joyce and Wallin attempted to get fights with Ortiz and his team's phone went silent when it was time to call them back.
                A fight with Ruiz was heavily linked for a while as well. I guess Ortiz is happy to be remembered for the classic fight with Malik Scott where Malik put it all on the line and went out very bravely on his shield, somehow, making it to the final bell in a toe-to-toe bloodbath. Nash out.

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                • Roberto Vasquez
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                  #18
                  Ortiz turned down a Joshua fight - for 3 belts, and then lied about it - until the emails got released. Then bizarrely fought Wilder for just one belt and got knocked out again. A real power move if ever I saw one.

                  Ortiz should fight Chisora. That's the fight we want to see.

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                  • PBR Streetgang
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Nash out

                    A fight with Ruiz was heavily linked for a while as well. I guess Ortiz is happy to be remembered for the classic fight with Malik Scott where Malik put it all on the line and went out very bravely on his shield, somehow, making it to the final bell in a toe-to-toe bloodbath. Nash out.
                    Haha. That was one of the more pathetic displays in a heavyweight boxing match I've seen. Scott was desperately looking for a punch (phantom or real) to mercifully end his night as he ran around the ring. I seem to recall the referee yelling at him and refusing to let him quit.

                    For his part Ortiz labored around the ring following Scott but unable to cut the ring off as he gasped for air. Ah, the memories....

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                    • Ry92
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                      #20
                      Part high risk low reward type fighter the other part is shh management priced self out of aj fight.

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