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  • #21
    Originally posted by billeau2 View Post

    Ok... so Parker wanted this weight? Its legit? I have not seen pics yet, but if he meant to prepare this way, then kudos. Parker is definitely talented, I just always saw him as emphasizing mobility. There is a logic here: The two guys who went strong against Del Boy did well... I guess Parker took a page from Hayes' book. Its hard to bet against Chisora but I do think Parker wins this... assuming he wanted to gain weight.
    Parker looks strong ,he’s not going to have a full six pack as posters want but it’s not body building. When a fighter is ripped they complain about being to muscular,you can’t win on here .

    What is real is he’s very thick and more importantly has that look of meaning business in the eyes something absent fir a few years . If he can’t win tomorrow he’s really going to have trouble regaining momentum to reach a title again .


    Sirenko is fighting Rudenko tomorrow as well in another interesting fight . I got to ask Ali Bashir a few questions about him ,after that one they are targeting Gassiev . He actually changed my mind on Holyfield vs Usyk , he says Usyk defeats him . I couldn’t argue it after he really broke it down on each strengths . Sirenkos definitely a guy to watch for me now .

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    • #22
      Lesh kau oilskin!!!!

      Cheeeehooooo...

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      • #23
        Originally posted by landotter View Post
        I have had Chisora since this was announced. He is due. Parker has looked horrid. Chisora by late KO
        Parker seems like a great guy, but also hoping for Del.
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        • #24
          Although Parker is heavy, he looks solid. But Chisora has functioned at these higher weights for along time, and knows he can fight at a decent enough pace for 12 rounds 'This new philosophy and game-plan for Parker will ether work, or backfire on him'.

          I was a bit unsure about Chisora's condition, but? From watching interviews with his trainer, apparently he is in decent condition. I don't think his trainer Coldwell is the best trainer for him, but I think he is honest when it comes to a fighters performances in training camp.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post
            Although Parker is heavy, he looks solid. But Chisora has functioned at these higher weights for along time, and knows he can fight at a decent enough pace for 12 rounds 'This new philosophy and game-plan for Parker will ether work, or backfire on him'.

            I was a bit unsure about Chisora's condition, but? From watching interviews with his trainer, apparently he is in decent condition. I don't think his trainer Coldwell is the best trainer for him, but I think he is honest when it comes to a fighters performances in training camp.
            You know, i never really thought about it, but there are trainers who will at least be reserved concerning their fighters when they are not happy with their efforts in camp. Not sure I ever heard one outright say "his prep blew *****s", but there are key phrases that you hear that may tip they are unimpressed that contrast with when they think they left it al in the gym and are as ready as they physically can be. I know nothing about Coldwell, but if he is one of the honest ones that is fun for Chisora who I think is the sentimental favorite on these boards for his willingness to fight everyone.

            EDIT: I find it hilarious that the Boxing Scene logic censored my word chunks. I do not swear much in my real life, much less on the boards!! Seeing the word before it, I get it. Not offended. Just very, very amused. I AM A REBEL!!

            Last edited by landotter; 12-18-2021, 11:39 AM.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by landotter View Post

              You know, i never really thought about it, but there are trainers who will at least be reserved concerning their fighters when they are not happy with their efforts in camp. Not sure I ever heard one outright say "his prep blew *****s", but there are key phrases that you hear that may tip they are unimpressed that contrast with when they think they left it al in the gym and are as ready as they physically can be. I know nothing about Coldwell, but if he is one of the honest ones that is fun for Chisora who I think is the sentimental favorite on these boards for his willingness to fight everyone.

              EDIT: I find it hilarious that the Boxing Scene logic censored my word chunks. I do not swear much in my real life, much less on the boards!! Seeing the word before it, I get it. Not offended. Just very, very amused. I AM A REBEL!!

              He always avoided Joyce . Rarely will everyone be willing to fight every one . He could have fought Joyce months ago but declined it so that’s at least twice because he asked for 5 million to fight him years ago which we all know is saying no .

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              • #27
                Originally posted by landotter View Post

                You know, i never really thought about it, but there are trainers who will at least be reserved concerning their fighters when they are not happy with their efforts in camp. Not sure I ever heard one outright say "his prep blew *****s", but there are key phrases that you hear that may tip they are unimpressed that contrast with when they think they left it al in the gym and are as ready as they physically can be. I know nothing about Coldwell, but if he is one of the honest ones that is fun for Chisora who I think is the sentimental favorite on these boards for his willingness to fight everyone.
                But yes my estimation of Coldwell as a trainer, is that he is really honest with his fighters and during interviews. He seems quite content with how things have went in training camp with Chisora 'Me personally I am unsure about Chisora, that is why I looked for a interview with Coldwell'.

                I think Chisora should of stayed with David Haye or gone back to Don Charles.

                Note: I always get the sense with Chisora that, he needs to be handled. David Haye could handle him, Don Charles could handle him 'Coldwell, decent enough trainer but I am not sure sure whether he can handle Chisora'.

                I can see Chisora if he wins this fight, changing trainers again. I would not rule how working with David Haye or Don Charles again.

                If Chisora is in condition, if this fight goes the distance? I will give him a chance of winning. Only due to the uncertainty of how Parker is going to perform over the distance at 250 + pounds etc I sense that Chisora may well be beaten up early on, ether he survives or does not.




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                • #28
                  Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post

                  But yes my estimation of Coldwell as a trainer, is that he is really honest with his fighters and during interviews. He seems quite content with how things have went in training camp with Chisora 'Me personally I am unsure about Chisora, that is why I looked for a interview with Coldwell'.

                  I think Chisora should of stayed with David Haye or gone back to Don Charles.

                  Note: I always get the sense with Chisora that, he needs to be handled. David Haye could handle him, Don Charles could handle him 'Coldwell, decent enough trainer but I am not sure sure whether he can handle Chisora'.

                  I can see Chisora if he wins this fight, changing trainers again. I would not rule how working with David Haye or Don Charles again.

                  If Chisora is in condition, if this fight goes the distance? I will give him a chance of winning. Only due to the uncertainty of how Parker is going to perform over the distance at 250 + pounds etc I sense that Chisora may well be beaten up early on, ether he survives or does not.



                  Buddy McGirt said he really struggled to get Chisora to follow directions even just shadow boxing which no one ever could make him do . However he boxed his best fight ever in the last fight so I imagine he’s not going to be as good which is probably why he’s not with McGirt with hard training ,I have a feeling Chisora did not put the work in necessary against a stronger Parker as far a boxing training itself.

                  Don Charles probably is burnt out begging him in the corner to do what he wants which is a reason they split ,
                  Last edited by REDEEMER; 12-18-2021, 12:02 PM.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post

                    Parker looks strong ,he’s not going to have a full six pack as posters want but it’s not body building. When a fighter is ripped they complain about being to muscular,you can’t win on here .

                    What is real is he’s very thick and more importantly has that look of meaning business in the eyes something absent fir a few years . If he can’t win tomorrow he’s really going to have trouble regaining momentum to reach a title again .


                    Sirenko is fighting Rudenko tomorrow as well in another interesting fight . I got to ask Ali Bashir a few questions about him ,after that one they are targeting Gassiev . He actually changed my mind on Holyfield vs Usyk , he says Usyk defeats him . I couldn’t argue it after he really broke it down on each strengths . Sirenkos definitely a guy to watch for me now .
                    What a fight! Usyk versus Holly... On paper Usyk wins but Holly had that Marciano energy lol, that "don't want to bet against this guy." Just a bad match up for the bastard maker.
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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post
                      Buddy McGirt said he really struggled to get Chisora to follow directions even just shadow boxing which no one ever could make him do . However he boxed his best fight ever in the last fight so I imagine he’s not going to be as good which is probably why he’s not with McGirt with hard training ,I have a feeling Chisora did not put the work in necessary against a stronger Parker as far a boxing training itself.

                      Don Charles probably is burnt out begging him in the corner to do what he wants which is a reason they split ,
                      What you have just stated, I believe Haye stated something similar 'When he first started working with Chisora'.

                      Don Charles interview, explains more about Chisora and is ways. I honestly think only David Haye & Don Charles could deal with Derek Chisora.

                      I don't see Chisora with Coldwell long term.

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