May God Bless Pacman & El Terrible On ThEIr Fight

[m00ks]

When I think of complete I think of being able to do everything. I can't think of the last time I saw Marquez take the lead in a fight or succeed in an all out brawl (I don't count the Pac fight). Morales knows how to attack with the jab/right and lure you into the uppercut, he can stay outside and pot-shot, he can definitely counter (7th rd. of the 3rd Barrera fight is a nice example...pristine right counter over Barreras punch), he can brawl (outside of some of his Barrera encounters).

Marquez is great at what he does, but he doesn't do enough to be viewed as the more complete fighter IMO. He's also had the luxury of doing his work against lesser competition than Morales. Some great counterpunchers in the history of the game have shown the ability to attack and break their opponent down, thus making them more of a complete fighter (ex: Toney/Hopkins/Hagler come to mind). In conclusion...Morales is a more complete fighter because I say so...

lol okay, but only cuz you say so


But being more "complete" don't mean **** if your gonna get hit first

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In "aresnal-Speaking", Morales is more complete fighter than Marquez.

[m00ks]

In "aresnal-Speaking", Morales is more complete fighter than Marquez.

very arguable.

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very arguable.

I dont really think so, Morales is a better balanced fighter and thus is in position many more times than marquez to throw a greater variety of EFFICIENT punches.

[m00ks]

I dont really think so, Morales is a better balanced fighter and thus is in position many more times than marquez to throw a greater variety of EFFICIENT punches.

hey if you want to talk efficient Marquez throws a lil over 40 rounds per round and he's able to neutralize his opponents regardless of their styles. Consistant and efficient if you ask me. Can't get more efficient than a counterpuncher who hold two belts. If there's something I'd give Morales over Marquez, it's power and accuracy from distance. But arsenally-wise (what I mean is range of different punches your able to throw), Marquez ain't under Morales.

[hectari]

MY question is why did JMM chicken out of the rematch? he has no name! or marketing value and he wanted alot of money?hahhaha even his own promoter said it was ridiculous for JMM to demand that kinda money since he was not the draw. Arum I think is rooting for pacman secretly he has been praising him and stuff, Arum wants to sign pacman since pacman is leaving Murad muhammed.

Pacman has tremendous power! it seems everytime he moves up a class he takes power with him! kinda like roberto duran, he has tremendous speed and moving feints.

Morales has Heart and the warrior spirit and a sneak uppercut. But he lacks handspeed but he has alot of tricks to use, but he has to be cautious. Morales himself is not even trash talking, he said pacman is a great warrior and he respects him unlike barrera.


this will be a fight of the ages.

I cannot wait.

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hey if you want to talk efficient Marquez throws a lil over 40 rounds per round and he's able to neutralize his opponents regardless of their styles. Consistant and efficient if you ask me. Can't get more efficient than a counterpuncher who hold two belts. If there's something I'd give Morales over Marquez, it's power and accuracy from distance. But arsenally-wise (what I mean is range of different punches your able to throw), Marquez ain't under Morales.

I didnt say efficient fighters, i said efficient punches. Marquez stands straight up more than Morales and it limits the variety of punches he is able to throw. You stand straight straight up and throw an uppercut, then stand like Morales, and throw one, big difference in the punching power (efficiency) of the punch. Which is why you see Morales throwing more uppercuts, hooks and shots to the body from a greater assortment of angles than you see Marquez. The range of different punches, as you put it favors Morales considerably over Marquez. And it will give Morales more openings to punish Pacquiao for any mistakes he makes.

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Morales himself is not even trash talking, he said pacman is a great warrior and he respects him unlike barrera.

True.

Morales never respected MAB due to his pre fight comments.

For one, there is a divide in Mexico between the Upper and Lower class. "Cortes" and "Chiapas".

MAB---coming from an upper-class background in Mexico City...made comments about the Tijuana born Morales not having decent shoes.

A prejeduced slur produced that disrespect.

Just pointing that out.



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[puppy_dogg]

great points from both guys but yeah i think marquez holds his own in the skills department, even with a legend like erik

[morancito]

listen man, any fighter can be hurt...but what im sayin is neither Barrera or Marquez have been able to hurt Pac Man...what does Morales bring to the table that those 2 didnt? please answer dat.

I guess you didn't get to see PacMan - JMM. JMM rocked PacMan for something like 10 rounds. He didn't Knock him down, but he definately hurt him.