May God Bless Pacman & El Terrible On ThEIr Fight

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  • m00ks
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    #91
    Originally posted by Runw/knives
    So you do not think Roach/Pac have been working on a similar tactic to get Morales out of there quickly...

    because if he does not, knowing what we learned from the JMM fight, he could give Morales the chance to dictate the fight with his Jab and uppercut....the 2 things I feel Pac should fear.
    Yep confused arguemnt. gues the plan WAS to take him out early. Marquez poses more of a threat to him cuz of his counterpunching style. So breaking him down would have been hella difficult. You can't land many punches if your getting countered on your first as opposed to how he handled Barrera which was systematic dismantling.
    Body shots investment was key in that Barrera fight and this is actually what Roach and Manny have been working on. They've worked lowering his left straight 6 inches down, aimed right at the sternum for a killer blow (THAT would hurt...a lot...) and a right hook that Roach believes to have as much power as his left when Pac pivots correctly (huge improvement as we saw in PAc's fght vs 3k battery last december). They're preparing for 12 rounds of non stop punching.
    Morales' jab would have a hard time landing. I'm not taking anything away from it but Pac's head and body movements would make him just that much harder to be jabbed. Barrera's jab was negated in his fight with Pac and Merchant even belives Barrera's jab is better than that of Morales.

    Now the upperut heheh is something else. Roach acknowledged this during the press conference. They've worked on lateral movements to neutralize it. One thing I noticed in teh Morales Chavez fight, when Chavez got dropped with the wickd uppercut, he was basically standing front his own left hand blocking his view of the motion. So he got caught clean. Pac's rythm is key but if he decised to stand there, he'll eat one and that's damn sure.

    Morales can dictate a fight cuz he's succesfull at making fighters fight at his own pace. He even said about a week ago, "The fighter who could dictate the pace of the fight will be the winner". Noticed that Barerra was the most successfull against their fight when he got off first. He upped the tempo from round 1 and that's what gave him the early orunds. He took rounds 7 and 8 as a breather and that's when Morales got his rythm going. Hey, it's a lot harder to punch when your getting punched

    Speed would be the deciding factor in this fight. It will dictate the pace, it will determine the winner.

    But hey what do I know
    Last edited by m00ks; 03-08-2005, 01:02 AM.

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    • morancito
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      #92
      Originally posted by m00ks
      He counterpunched impressively for 8 rounds yeah, I had it 8-4. Pac winning due to the 3 KDs giving him a 10-6 round.
      Then you actually had JMM winning, like most boxing experts did. Your 8-4 in rounds, scoring the first 10-6 for Pac, gives JMM a 113-112 win over Manny:

      8 (x10) 80
      3 (x9) 27
      1 (x6) 6

      Total points JMM: 113

      4 (x10) 40
      8 (x9) 72

      Total points PacMan: 112

      Finally we agree

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      • m00ks
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        #93
        Originally posted by morancito
        Then you actually had JMM winning, like most boxing experts did. Your 8-4 in rounds, scoring the first 10-6 for Pac, gives JMM a 113-112 win over Manny:

        8 (x10) 80
        3 (x9) 27
        1 (x6) 6

        Total points JMM: 113

        4 (x10) 40
        8 (x9) 72

        Total points PacMan: 112

        Finally we agree
        Or was it 7-5 I forget Nah but seriously I had Pac winning by one point 113-112. I know I gave Pac rounds 1-2,7,9,10

        The only big problem I had was Jutras card 115-110. That means he gave rounds 1 and 2 to PAc and 3-12 to Marquez. WTF was that!?!?

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        • morancito
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          #94
          Originally posted by m00ks
          Or was it 7-5 I forget Nah but seriously I had Pac winning by one point 113-112. I know I gave Pac rounds 1-2,7,9,10

          The only big problem I had was Jutras card 115-110. That means he gave rounds 1 and 2 to PAc and 3-12 to Marquez. WTF was that!?!?
          I gave Manny 4 rounds and I thought I was being VERY generous.

          Jutras was no worse than the one who had Manny winning 7 rounds (115 - 110) I mean, what other rounds could he possibly saw PacMan winning?

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          • .::EnRiQuE::.
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            #95
            Go Pacquiao!!!

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            • m00ks
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              #96
              Originally posted by morancito
              I gave Manny 4 rounds and I thought I was being VERY generous.

              Jutras was no worse than the one who had Manny winning 7 rounds (115 - 110) I mean, what other rounds could he possibly saw PacMan winning?
              4 is generous? You can't get serious. I gave it 7-5 and that's giving Marquez the close rounds!
              bro, I'm telling you I watched the fight near ten times, paying close attention to which punches landed and missed and I have to say some of the rounds were too close. Almost impossible to pick a winner . Among them was 7,8,11, they were way too close to call. 1,2,9-10 were Pac's hands down.

              How many times did you see the fight?

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              • phallus
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                #97
                it's gona be a great fight, can't wait to see it. i just pray that nobody gets ****ed up

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                • Cang-ipos
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                  #98
                  ONE-DIMENSIONAL BOXER

                  With the way PACMAN manhandled Barrera, I just can't believe some people still doubt his skills. He may not be invincible but to say he's a one-dimensional fighter is totally absurd. You'll see.
                  Last edited by Cang-ipos; 03-08-2005, 10:04 AM.

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                  • Run
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by m00ks
                    So he got caught clean. Pac's rythm is key but if he decised to stand there, he'll eat one and that's damn sure.
                    Chances of him standing there are slim to none. When roach was working on neutralizing the uppercut, what punch would Pac throw. A right hook counter?



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                    • m00ks
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by Runw/knives
                      Chances of him standing there are slim to none. When roach was working on neutralizing the uppercut, what punch would Pac throw. A right hook counter?
                      Yep a stiff right hook assuming of course he lands

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