May God Bless Pacman & El Terrible On ThEIr Fight

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  • ZEZ
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    #51
    Originally posted by Manila Ice
    Though many would argue your point (that since Pac beat Barrera he would have a good chance on beating Erik, who lost recently to Barrera), you are right in thinking that the fight could go either way. There are even some who predict a draw but by the nature of both fighters (both being sluggers), I wouldn't bet on the fight going the full distance.
    YAAAP!PINOY IS ALWAYS BUHAY!!!!

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    • m00ks
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      #52
      Originally posted by DCReprezenta
      And I hate to compare again, but Marquez is also far more defensive in nature than Morales and still got caught, Should be interesting to see how Morales tries to avoid Pac Man.....Best case scenario for Morales is that he takes Pac Man's punch and gives him a laugh like he did Ayala, Worst case scenario for Morales is that his right eye (which swells grotesquely) gets closed early becuz he would then be led to the slaughter.
      Lol nah man that ain't happenin. But it would be very funny to see Morales taunt Pac and Pac would just smiling from the challenge.

      I think Morales' defense should be his offense and back Pac up, to the ropes. He's too upright and slow to dip down like Marquez, no way he can mimic the performance. If he doesn't knock out Pac he's in for a long night.

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      • oldgringo
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        #53
        Originally posted by DCReprezenta
        Now this fight puzzles me, Before I would have picked Morales easy becuz of his toughness and Pacquaio's the more vulnerable fighter....but Pacquaio has hurt Barrera (something Morales failed to do) and also gave Marquez (who i think is even more put togetha than Barrera and Morales) hell......wouldnt be surprised of Pacquaio stops Morales.

        Morales is a more complete fighter than Marquez...Marquez can't fight going forward (take the lead) as well as Erik and is not nearly as versatile as Erik. Erik can box and set his opponent up , he can brawl, or he sit back and counterpunch when he wants to.

        Erik has hurt Barrera many times in their three fights. He had Barrera hurt 3-4 times down the stretch of their third fight...and who can forget that 5th round of their first fight. He just could never quite put him down or away.

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        • amaru
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          #54
          this fight is TTTOOOOOOOO CLOSE TO CALL!!!! one minute i think morales is gonna win and then i think pacquaio is gonna win. i must say that barrera is my favourite boxer but i will admit this, pacman is NOT A 1 DIMENSIONAL FIGHTER. even though it pains me to watch the video against barrera, pacman showed that he is more than just a boxer who relies on just his left hand. his handspeed is phenomenal and he has excellent combo's to the body and the head.

          morales is also a terrific boxer, if he chooses to box rather than get dragged into a war he could perhaps still be undefeated. the point im making is both fighters are terrific fighters and both fighters have a great chance come march 19th.

          this fight is not so one sided as many people think. this fight will come down to who wants it more and in my opinion, morales has more to lose than pacquaio which is why i think he just might do it, then again, pacman is a monster and im sure he wants it just as much as morales. this fight is to close to call.

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          • m00ks
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            #55
            Originally posted by oldgringo
            Morales is a more complete fighter than Marquez...Marquez can't fight going forward (take the lead) as well as Erik and is not nearly as versatile as Erik. Erik can box and set his opponent up , he can brawl, or he sit back and counterpunch when he wants to.

            Erik has hurt Barrera many times in their three fights. He had Barrera hurt 3-4 times down the stretch of their third fight...and who can forget that 5th round of their first fight. He just could never quite put him down or away.
            Morales got hurt as well in that 5th round and Barrera had his moments.

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            • Run
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              #56
              I will say 1 thing.

              All hell is going to break loose on this forum after this fight.

              Regardless of who wins etc.

              I hope, and HOPE it is not a draw.

              That would mark the starting point for WW3 between the two opposing

              sides on BS.

              Scratch that:

              I CANT WAIT!



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              • oldgringo
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                #57
                Originally posted by m00ks
                Morales got hurt as well in that 5th round and Barrera had his moments.

                Absolutely...it was the small version of 10th rd. Bowe/Holy. Barrera took some nasty shots and answered back with his own arsenal.


                I still think that Morales has had Barrera hurt more often than the converse.

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                • m00ks
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by oldgringo
                  Absolutely...it was the small version of 10th rd. Bowe/Holy. Barrera took some nasty shots and answered back with his own arsenal.


                  I still think that Morales has had Barrera hurt more often than the converse.
                  Yeah or Gatti/Ward 1 round 9
                  Both parties put the hurting one each other but for the sake of the conversation, yes he was hurt by Morales numerous of time. Just never hurt enough to go down.

                  I also think arsenal-speaking, Marquez is if not more complete than Morales. Yes Morales is more effective offensiveley but that's his style and not Marquez'. I'll tell you right now EM has nothing on JMM fighting backwards. Boat rocks both ways.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by m00ks
                    I also think arsenal-speaking, Marquez is if not more complete than Morales. Yes Morales is more effective offensiveley but that's his style and not Marquez'. I'll tell you right now EM has nothing on JMM fighting backwards. Boat rocks both ways.
                    Great Post Mooks. you are a hundred percent correct. Styles make fights, and in the case of the featherweights;

                    speculation runs rampant troughout the division.

                    Tough comparisons between Offensive and Defensive minded fighters.



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                    • oldgringo
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by m00ks
                      Yeah or Gatti/Ward 1 round 9
                      Both parties put the hurting one each other but for the sake of the conversation, yes he was hurt by Morales numerous of time. Just never hurt enough to go down.

                      I also think arsenal-speaking, Marquez is if not more complete than Morales. Yes Morales is more effective offensiveley but that's his style and not Marquez'. I'll tell you right now EM has nothing on JMM fighting backwards. Boat rocks both ways.

                      When I think of complete I think of being able to do everything. I can't think of the last time I saw Marquez take the lead in a fight or succeed in an all out brawl (I don't count the Pac fight). Morales knows how to attack with the jab/right and lure you into the uppercut, he can stay outside and pot-shot, he can definitely counter (7th rd. of the 3rd Barrera fight is a nice example...pristine right counter over Barreras punch), he can brawl (outside of some of his Barrera encounters).

                      Marquez is great at what he does, but he doesn't do enough to be viewed as the more complete fighter IMO. He's also had the luxury of doing his work against lesser competition than Morales. Some great counterpunchers in the history of the game have shown the ability to attack and break their opponent down, thus making them more of a complete fighter (ex: Toney/Hopkins/Hagler come to mind). In conclusion...Morales is a more complete fighter because I say so...
                      Last edited by oldgringo; 03-07-2005, 02:12 PM.

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