I still rate Loma as the #1 Lightweight in the world.

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  • Cypocryphy
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    #21
    Originally posted by just the facts

    If that’s how you chose to look at it. Remember Linares put Loma on his asz, and other than scare Ryan Garcia, Pedraza hasn’t really accomplished much and I rate JoJo and Cruz higher than Commey and miles ahead of Campbell.
    You should change your handle from "just the facts" to "these are my feelings."

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      #22
      Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

      I’m starting to think Lopez got lucky tbh, I think Loma beats him in a rematch- I think that’s the reason the Lopez’s didn’t want it.
      Idk if I can agree. It wasn't a very close fight.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Mammoth

        Idk if I can agree. It wasn't a very close fight.
        That's a minority opinion. There are too many professionals who saw that fight as a draw. Way to many. From Bud Crawford to Robert Garcia.

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          #24
          Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

          Completely disagree tbh man. Loma has done way more than Tank and Haney at 135.

          Loma has beaten 2 champions and 4 fighters ranked top 5 at 135.
          (Linares WBA, Pedraza WBO)
          (Linares #1/C, Pedraza #3, Campbell #4, Commey #5 per Ring.)

          Haney has beaten 0 champions and 0 fighters ranked top 5.

          Tank has beaten 0 champions and 0 fighters ranked top 5 at 135
          He should have accomplished more than a guy who just turned 23. That's just a given. I feel like Tank had good opponents this year but he's not going down the right path of doing what you gotta do to get credit credit from the ring magazine types. He should have been in with better competition by now though.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Mammoth

            Idk if I can agree. It wasn't a very close fight.
            I had it close, 115-113 Lopez. I thought Loma won at least 4 of the last 6. I just think Loma badly got his tactics wrong on the night in hindsight.

            Originally, I thought it was that because Lopez was so strong, powerful and skilled that Loma was so cautious to commit but after what Kambosos did I just think he got it wrong on the night. I just think Loma came out flat and Teofimo utilised an effective gameplan.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Cypocryphy

              That's a minority opinion. There are too many professionals who saw that fight as a draw. Way to many. From Bud Crawford to Robert Garcia.
              I think it was close but the right man got the decision. Between 7-5 to 8-4 Lopez seems to be the consensus.

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                #27
                Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

                I’m starting to think Lopez got lucky tbh, I think Loma beats him in a rematch- I think that’s the reason the Lopez’s didn’t want it.
                It was a close fight that definitely warranted a rematch,just as Mell vs Castano does. Having to have a major shoulder surgery soon after I'm inclined to believe there was some truth on protecting that injury in the early rds like he said he was. He realized he had to go for broke so to speak after the 6th rd because he knew he was down on the cards. Clear difference in activity between the first 6 compared to latter imo suggest that. There's a reason Teo was adamant about not giving him a rematch and I suspect it's because he knew he pulled off a miracle.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Cypocryphy

                  [SIZE=16px][FONT=Georgia]That's a minority opinion.
                  I really don't believe it is. You could make a poll if you'd like.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

                    I had it close, 115-113 Lopez. I thought Loma won at least 4 of the last 6. I just think Loma badly got his tactics wrong on the night in hindsight.

                    Originally, I thought it was that because Lopez was so strong, powerful and skilled that Loma was so cautious to commit but after what Kambosos did I just think he got it wrong on the night. I just think Loma came out flat and Teofimo utilised an effective gameplan.
                    I thought Loma lost the first 7. Put together 4 rounds then lost the 12th. I don't know another way to judge who the better fighter is between the two other than what we saw when they were in the ring together. Lopez said no to the rematch but he also seems mentally ill and basically said nobody was worthy of fighting him. He's hard to read.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Mammoth

                      I thought Loma lost the first 7. Put together 4 rounds then lost the 12th. I don't know another way to judge who the better fighter is between the two other than what we saw when they were in the ring together. Lopez said no to the rematch but he also seems mentally ill and basically said nobody was worthy of fighting him. He's hard to read.
                      I just think one guy really underperformed and the other really over-performed.

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