Can anyone name Furys top 5 opponents for me?

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  • QueensburyRules
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    #111
    Originally posted by Boxing-1013

    Ask AJ, he would know. He would be lucky to get 1 win in those 3 fights.
    - - Y U no no what grade U in?

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    • Toffee
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      #112
      Originally posted by Boxing-1013

      Whatever you AJ fans have to tell yourselves lol. Fury has a number of fights vs top opposition. No one sh.its on Ali for 3 fights vs Frazier or Norton. You don't purely go by opponent.

      If you face a guy a number of times, you credit all of those fights.

      Why is that important? Because some guys will go 1-1 even against some like Rahman. Going 2-0-1 against Wilder is extremely impressive.

      Ask AJ, he would know. He would be lucky to get 1 win in those 3 fights.
      If Wilder was proven at the top level I'd agree. But who did he beat for us to think Fury beating him 2 or 3 times was a great achievement?

      ​​​​​​The fact the third fight was enjoyable doesn't change the fact that we didn't need it. Fury was a huge favourite and even he didn't think it was a worthwhile fight. Fury could have fought Wilder 10 times without losing. Would it keep on being more and more impressive?

      Wilder was never fighting AJ. Remember, he took on Fury's name when Fury looked gone. His career was built on not fighting anyone prime. That's how he got there and stayed there.

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        #113
        Norton And Frazier would kill everyone Fury fought.

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        • Robbie Barrett
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          #114
          Nobody named UKAD?

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          • Thuglife Nelo
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            #115
            Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
            Nobody named UKAD?
            I heard Fury rassstled with some wild boars too, aggressively

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            • Boxing-1013
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              #116
              Originally posted by Toffee

              If Wilder was proven at the top level I'd agree. But who did he beat for us to think Fury beating him 2 or 3 times was a great achievement?

              ​​​​​​The fact the third fight was enjoyable doesn't change the fact that we didn't need it. Fury was a huge favourite and even he didn't think it was a worthwhile fight. Fury could have fought Wilder 10 times without losing. Would it keep on being more and more impressive?

              Wilder was never fighting AJ. Remember, he took on Fury's name when Fury looked gone. His career was built on not fighting anyone prime. That's how he got there and stayed there.
              Wilder did more than enough to prove he was at the top. For anyone to act otherwise is absurd.

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                #117
                Originally posted by Boxing-1013

                Wilder did more than enough to prove he was at the top. For anyone to act otherwise is absurd.
                Take away the belts and he had a resume that looked like he was a fringe contender.

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                  #118
                  Originally posted by Toffee

                  Take away the belts and he had a resume that looked like he was a fringe contender.
                  Not sure if AJ would beat Ortiz twice. And he certainly took a lot longer to beat Breazeale. And he got KOed the second he stepped out of his comfort zone even a little bit, by a little fat boy.

                  If AJ 'proved' he was top level, Wilder certainly did.

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                    #119
                    Originally posted by Boxing-1013

                    Not sure if AJ would beat Ortiz twice. And he certainly took a lot longer to beat Breazeale. And he got KOed the second he stepped out of his comfort zone even a little bit, by a little fat boy.

                    If AJ 'proved' he was top level, Wilder certainly did.
                    AJ actually fought guys. While Wilder and Fury avoided them and had guys like you saying that Wilder and Fury "could and would" beat everyone. That's not how the sport is supposed to work. You are supposed to prove it in the ring. And that is what you guys are forgetting. Upsets happen all the time in boxing. Especially at heavyweight. But if you avoid the best like Wilder and Fury have, you can beat bums and claim to be the best. Which is crap

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                      #120
                      Originally posted by Boxing-1013

                      Not sure if AJ would beat Ortiz twice. And he certainly took a lot longer to beat Breazeale. And he got KOed the second he stepped out of his comfort zone even a little bit, by a little fat boy.

                      If AJ 'proved' he was top level, Wilder certainly did.
                      What he said above.

                      AJ fought top 10 fighters. He unified. He beat Wlad, Povetkin, Ruiz, Parker, Whyte, Pulev. Not just guys he chose, but people who he had to fight to defend his belts.

                      You don't mention Breazeale when talking about Joshua. You certainly do when talking about Wilder. It's in his top victories.

                      Wilder beat a guy that was developed specifically for him (Ortiz). Then tried to avenge a loss when he stepped out of his comfort zone, failed and probably won't be seen again.

                      No comparison. Mind you, it wasn't me making the comparison in the first place. I was talking about Wilder's resume not being proven at the top level. Joshua's career is a completely different discussion.

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