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  • JJRod
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    #91
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn

    Or the guys that don’t earn more can do with Tank exactly what Floyd did with odh- take short money for the opportunity.
    Is Tank really pulling that much more money than the other guys though?
    Oscar was the face of boxing at the time. Can we say the same about Tank? I get he wants the bigger slice of the pie, but how big does he think the pie is?

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #92
      Originally posted by DaNeutral.

      Tank and his mangers don't want to be in those fights right now and they have made that very clear, they ain't even denying it. So it's all well and good saying what you do but its useless if Tank has no interest in them anyway. We all saw how quickly Leonard dismissed Josh Taylor as soon as his interest was shown. And anyway its all in house fights only. Floyds words not mine.
      Well that isn’t what was said in the article. Floyd has said in house only. He now is suggesting take short money. Which is something he himself has done.

      Clearly there is interest so long as power and control rests with Tank and his team because he is the bigger revenue generator.

      This seems to be the real issue here. Same as it was with Floyd- you and others don’t seem to like it when power and control are with pbc.

      The earner setting the terms is how things have always been done so when you say they are not doing things as always isn’t accurate.

      Taylor? He’s a JWW. Since when do you condone calling out smaller boxers? Better question- why is he the only LW he called out?

      You know why- money.

      Last edited by The Big Dunn; 12-04-2021, 10:46 AM.

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        #93
        Originally posted by JJRod

        Is Tank really pulling that much more money than the other guys though?
        Oscar was the face of boxing at the time. Can we say the same about Tank? I get he wants the bigger slice of the pie, but how big does he think the pie is?
        Yes he is. Tank is by no means odh, Floyd or canelo.

        But he is fighting in bigger arenas in front of more fans than the other LW’s. He’s carved out a lane for himself.

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        • DaNeutral.
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          #94
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn

          Well that isn’t what was said in the article. Floyd has said in house only. He now is saying take short money.

          Clearly there is interest so long as power and control rests with Tank and his team because he is the bigger revenue generator.

          This seems to be the real issue here. Same as it was with Floyd- you and others don’t seem to like it when power and control are with pbc.

          The earner setting the terms is how things have always been done so when you say they are not doing things as always isn’t accurate.

          Taylor? He’s a JWW. Since when do you condone calling out smaller boxers?

          Calling out a smaller Boxer? Isn't Tank a WBA silver belt holder at 140? Wasn't Tanks last fight at 140? If either of those are true then somebody else in that weight class isn't calling out a smaller Boxer he is calling out somebody who is plying their trade in the same division as him.

          If Tank is the earner and the earner sets the terms then whwy don't they offer some fights against better names and then set the terms. There are a number of fighters who have shown interest in facing Tank but its gotta be on Tanks terms on a Tank PPV on Fox or Showtime. So why doesn't he make the moves seeing as the onus would be on him and his managers.

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            #95
            Originally posted by DaNeutral.

            Calling out a smaller Boxer? Isn't Tank a WBA silver belt holder at 140? Wasn't Tanks last fight at 140? If either of those are true then somebody else in that weight class isn't calling out a smaller Boxer he is calling out somebody who is plying their trade in the same division as him.

            If Tank is the earner and the earner sets the terms then whwy don't they offer some fights against better names and then set the terms. There are a number of fighters who have shown interest in facing Tank but its gotta be on Tanks terms on a Tank PPV on Fox or Showtime. So why doesn't he make the moves seeing as the onus would be on him and his managers.
            Come on dude. He relinquished that belt.

            When the Barrios fight was announced you and others said it was a cherry pick go up to fight an easy dude and then he’d drop back. You call him a fake champ or no champ at 140.

            That kind of inconsistency illustrates some of the points I’ve made in the past. You guys seem to move the goalposts solely to criticize him.

            Yes it does. That is how power and control work. That is how it’s always worked.

            So he will make the offers when it’s best for him, same as any other boxer that draws more has always done.

            I’m just trying to understand why Tank is being asked to do it differently?

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              #96
              Davis has two top 10 opponents on his record, zero top five.

              Cruz will be the highest ranked opponent he's ever faced at #6.

              That's ridiculously sad and the people comparing his record to Mayweather's are on crack. Tank's entire career doesn't even measure up to Floyd's first 5 years.

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              • DaNeutral.
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                #97
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                Come on dude. He relinquished that belt.

                When the Barrios fight was announced you and others said it was a cherry pick go up to fight an easy dude and then he’d drop back. You call him a fake champ or no champ at 140.

                That kind of inconsistency illustrates some of the points I’ve made in the past. You guys seem to move the goalposts solely to criticize him.

                Yes it does. That is how power and control work. That is how it’s always worked.

                So he will make the offers when it’s best for him, same as any other boxer that draws more has always done.

                I’m just trying to understand why Tank is being asked to do it differently?
                Yes he will, when is that going to be? And what is he being asked to do differently? And we said he would pick off a secondary title against a weaker 140 fighter then scuttle off back to 135? Isn't that exactly what he has done?

                A strange post by you Dunn, you have just confirmed what we all been saying in an attempt to argue against us.

                Like I say, I don't mind the money grab cheap route he is taking but don't put it hand in hand with the big boy talk, save the big boy talk for when he is ready to fight the big boys.

                I'm a Boxing fan I want to see the best fighters be the best they can be by fighting the best and winning the titles. Tank could well be one of the best but his management don't want to do that they want to make easy money in cherry picks.

                The reason Tank is not fighting the cream of the 135 or 140 divisions even though he is in his prime is because Tank and his management don't want to fight them. It really is as simple as that.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat

                  Cruz Gonzalez is one my favorite fighters. He has balls. I've no doubt he'd trounce people like Commey or JoJo (and I like JoJo). Can't wait for Sunday.
                  Your constant hard on for anything Tank has got you talking utter nonsense. Cruz "trounces" Commey and Jojo now?? Gtfo,he couldn't even convincingly beat a shot to pieces Vargas but all of a sudden he's going to trounce two guys that are far more skilled,fresher,bigger and stronger than Vargas?? Cruz is just a crude pressure fighter that comes in,head down looping wide ass shots. He couldn't be any more tailor made for Tank,he's open ALL DAY long for an uppercut which just so happens to be Tanks money shot. This fight will be over by rd 4 and all were going to hear from Tank nutthuggers is how he would do this and that to Loma and the rest. Funny you say he'd crack Lomas head in two but when Mayweather gave him the opportunity,Tanks scared little ass had a meltdown on twitter remember??

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                  • BoxingIsGreat
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Sctrojan

                    Your constant hard on for anything Tank has got you talking utter nonsense. Cruz "trounces" Commey and Jojo now?? Gtfo,he couldn't even convincingly beat a shot to pieces Vargas but all of a sudden he's going to trounce two guys that are far more skilled,fresher,bigger and stronger than Vargas?? Cruz is just a crude pressure fighter that comes in,head down looping wide ass shots. He couldn't be any more tailor made for Tank,he's open ALL DAY long for an uppercut which just so happens to be Tanks money shot. This fight will be over by rd 4 and all were going to hear from Tank nutthuggers is how he would do this and that to Loma and the rest. Funny you say he'd crack Lomas head in two but when Mayweather gave him the opportunity,Tanks scared little ass had a meltdown on twitter remember??
                    Haters like you don't deserve a reply. Fuck off.

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                    • famicommander
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat

                      Haters like you don't deserve a reply. Fuck off.
                      When exactly will you expect Tank to step up, then?

                      Because Cruz will be just his third opponent ranked in the top 10 of the division he's fighting them in at the time of the fight.

                      Cruz is a #6. He has fought a #7 and a #9. That's it, in 26 fights.

                      Why does a 27 year old with such a soft resume deserve such loyalty?

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