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  • ShoulderRoll
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    #81
    Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat

    What if the holder of these trinkets vacates them all at once? Back to 4 chumps?
    Yes unfortunately.

    But maybe another good fighter can unify them again.

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      #82
      Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat

      Floyd looks at it as a power move to enforce it whenever and however they wish. They won't do it because the WBA ordered it.
      Well, then the WBA should order Kambosos vs. Tank, if Tank walks, then let the Rivera vs. Linares winner fight for the WBA title! That's the righteous thing to do, after what they did to Ugas!

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      • Rodtang
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        #83
        Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF

        To be undisputed champion, you need all four organizations to recognize you as their top champion. All four organizations recognize Kambosos as their top champion.
        Your correct in what you say there. But the other 3 do not recognize the Franchise title as the legitimate world title and so, no undisputed. Suliman has said that Haney is the world champion and that the holder of the franchise title is not the world champion. That's why Canelo refused the Franchise at 168. Because he wanted undisputed and new that he would not be recognized as such from the other organizations. Suliman can say what he likes. He is getting above his authority here. His authority only gives him power over WBC issues, not World Boxing as a whole.

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        • Toffee
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          #84
          Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF

          To be undisputed champion, you need all four organizations to recognize you as their top champion. All four organizations recognize Kambosos as their top champion.
          The WBC don't.

          They recognise Haney as their champion. They recognise Kambosos as a "Franchise Boxer".

          https://wbcboxing.com/en/wbc-convent...y-nov-16-2021/

          Step into the fast-paced world of WBC Lightweight division and witness skilled contenders and champions in the World Boxing Council.

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          Last edited by Toffee; 11-30-2021, 04:29 PM.

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          • BoxingIsGreat
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            #85
            Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

            Yes unfortunately.

            But maybe another good fighter can unify them again.
            Wait for another "Undisputed" for another decade or more? I have no issues with anyone who thinks these belts are a necessary evil. The thing is tho these same people basically demand that others should agree with them as well.

            As a long time boxing fan, it's enough for me to know who the good ones are, without the crooked orgs telling me anything. There are times when the right person is holding those big belts. It's not always the case. For me, it's a coincidence. I praise the fighter, never the corrupt orgs.

            I can go on and on, but this should suffice.
            Last edited by BoxingIsGreat; 11-30-2021, 06:52 PM.

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              #86
              Originally posted by Rodtang

              Your correct in what you say there. But the other 3 do not recognize the Franchise title as the legitimate world title and so, no undisputed. Suliman has said that Haney is the world champion and that the holder of the franchise title is not the world champion. That's why Canelo refused the Franchise at 168. Because he wanted undisputed and new that he would not be recognized as such from the other organizations. Suliman can say what he likes. He is getting above his authority here. His authority only gives him power over WBC issues, not World Boxing as a whole.
              Good post. Last sentence killed it. Kudos. I personally don't recognize the WBC or any of the meaningless belt orgs.

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              • sicko
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                #87
                stop planning ahead, let him beat JoJo Diaz first at least

                people just spent a week making plans for Lopez and looking WTF just happened to him! Jojo Diaz or Pitbull, NOBODY should be shocked if one of them pull off a upset this weekend

                something about November and December, Upsets seem to happen around that time of the year

                Lou DiBella just recently did a interview this Morning and said "it is 2-3 fights BIGGER than a fight with Haney" and the first name he mentioned was TANK DAVIS so even Lou knows and have no problem admitting who is the biggest draw and who they can get the most money with and he is right but again these guys both better focus on the fighters in front of them
                Last edited by sicko; 11-30-2021, 07:12 PM.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Rodtang
                  Your correct in what you say there. But the other 3 do not recognize the Franchise title as the legitimate world title and so, no undisputed.
                  The WBA, IBF and WBO have no say in who the WBC recognizes as their top champion. The WBC ratings listed Teofimo Lopez as "Franchise Champion" above Devin Haney, who was listed as "Champion." The WBC is referring to Kambosos as undisputed champion. https://www.instagram.com/p/CWzoYoEMW41/


                  Suliman has said that Haney is the world champion and that the holder of the franchise title is not the world champion.
                  Haney is the WBC world champion and Tank is the WBA world champion. Kambosos is the WBC franchise world champion and the WBA super world champion. All four organizations recognize Kambosos as their top champion in the division. The media is confused and doesn't realize Franchise World Champions are now listed above world champions in the WBC ratings.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Toffee
                    They recognise Haney as their champion. They recognise Kambosos as a "Franchise Boxer".
                    You're wrong. The most recent WBC ratings say:

                    FRANCHISE CHAMPION: TEOFIMO LOPEZ (HONDURAS/US)
                    CHAMPION: DEVIN HANEY (US)
                    INTERIM CHAMPION: JOSEPH DIAZ (US)

                    The Franchise world champion is now listed above the world champion in the published WBC ratings and the WBC itself is calling Kambosos the undisputed champion of the world. https://www.instagram.com/p/CWzoYoEMW41/

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                      #90
                      franchise is a fkn plague on mankind. its confused the general public and clueless casuals. franchise has launched a million pointless arguments that NEVER SHOULDVE HAPPENED. the amount of ignorant, moronic zombies arguing the franchise is a legit belt reminds me of the walking dead. endless wave after wave of dumb c*nts all with the same reasoning. sulaiman will go down as the dishonest greedy fcukwit that mislead a generation of @sshats

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