Teo is FOOD at 140

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  • DaNeutral.
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    #31
    He has enough natural talent to be a force at 140, I think last night was the 1st occasion he looked like he has outgrown Lightweight and its been a topic of conversation for a while now. He was never going to be long at 135 he is a big lad.

    He needs a better coach than his dad though.

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    • techliam
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      #32
      Originally posted by Cypocryphy

      Because the scorecards were ridiculous. Julie Lederman's card was a travesty (and she hasn't judged since, incidentally). The scorecards don't reflect what happened in the ring. I can understand Lopez winning because a close fight like that could go to either boxer, depending on what the judges see. And because they punch so quickly, it's hard to tell if a punch landed or was blocked. But Loma had the better of Teofimo in that ring. Lopez was given credit for punches that were blocked. The thudding sound must have impressed the judges as there was no crowd to dampen it.

      Anyway, what I'm saying is that the scorecards didn't reflect that actual fight. That's all. Fights that close can go to either guy.
      Ah ok
      So what you’re saying is the judges beat Loma, only on the cards
      But also Lopez has an equally strong case of beating him in the ring, performance-wise. Loma wasn’t robbed

      it wasn’t so clear in your first post but fair enough

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        #33
        Originally posted by TheUptownKid
        Great points, but others at 140 have different tools to contend with. Longer arms, an inside guy, pure size…. Just because they wouldn’t beat him like kambosos doesn’t mean the water gets any less deep.
        No doubt. They would be a tougher test in many ways too. Teo is just so explosive, it's hard to see, for me, a lot of guys taking that power. But I guess time will tell.

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        • Cypocryphy
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          #34
          Originally posted by TheUptownKid

          I do not believe Lomas arm stopped him from fighting. Yep trained extremely hard for loma and thought of it as the opportunity of his lifetime, he overlooked kambosos. I wouldn’t draw any correlation between one fight and the other except Teo planned to take away lomas attack with the jab early and had an actual game plan, this fight he tried to ko him in round 1 and had no gameplan
          Really? How come he didn't take it away for the last half of the fight? Did he take it away or did Loma just not throw? Because if he was taking it away he should have had success throughout the fight, but it looked like a whole different fight the last half, where Loma took away Lopez's best weapons (uppercut, hook, and jab). You know what I mean? How did Lopez go from completely stopping Loma from throwing to looking like a piņata the last half of the fight?

          I'm not trying to take away from Lopez because he did some very good things in there and it was definitely part of the reason Loma didn't throw, but for me it was a combination of Loma's arm being ****ed up and not wanting to risk getting caught with a power shot from Lopez. Loma had to figure out how bad his arm was after the second round. It was a mental thing.

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            #35
            Another thing i noticed with Teo is even though hes the more stocky guy he really doesn't seem that strong in the clinch game. Kambosos tied him up well, and when Loma went inside he was completely lost and getting bullied by a small Loma. These bigger guys with a inside game i see him struggling a lot.

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              #36
              Originally posted by TheUptownKid

              I do not believe Lomas arm stopped him from fighting. Yep trained extremely hard for loma and thought of it as the opportunity of his lifetime, he overlooked kambosos. I wouldn’t draw any correlation between one fight and the other except Teo planned to take away lomas attack with the jab early and had an actual game plan, this fight he tried to ko him in round 1 and had no gameplan
              You don't have to believe it or not its fact Loma has a torn labrum and after the fight went straight to surgery. I don't think people realize how bad a torn labrum is. Especially since its the second time this happened to him. This was a career ending injury.

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              • El Más Loco
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                #37
                Originally posted by Pigeons

                You don't feel camaraderie with all Latinos? Just your countrymen?
                Camaraderie, yes. But I don't claim their wins and losses.

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                  #38
                  His power is overrated. Loma took his best shots and smiled. Kambosos eat his beat shots and beat him down.

                  This guy has no business fighting at 140.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Cypocryphy

                    Really? How come he didn't take it away for the last half of the fight? Did he take it away or did Loma just not throw? Because if he was taking it away he should have had success throughout the fight, but it looked like a whole different fight the last half, where Loma took away Lopez's best weapons (uppercut, hook, and jab). You know what I mean? How did Lopez go from completely stopping Loma from throwing to looking like a piņata the last half of the fight?

                    I'm not trying to take away from Lopez because he did some very good things in there and it was definitely part of the reason Loma didn't throw, but for me it was a combination of Loma's arm being ****ed up and not wanting to risk getting caught with a power shot from Lopez. Loma had to figure out how bad his arm was after the second round. It was a mental thing.
                    the same logic could be used for Loma, if his arm was messed up why did he throw it so much later? Why would he perform better after having aggravated the injury or whatever? Fact is lomas footwork was more active later and that gave teo problems. And the name of elite boxing is making adjustments, lomas increased success can be chalked up to him adjusting during the fight.

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                    • Cypocryphy
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by TheUptownKid

                      the same logic could be used for Loma, if his arm was messed up why did he throw it so much later? Why would he perform better after having aggravated the injury or whatever? Fact is lomas footwork was more active later and that gave teo problems. And the name of elite boxing is making adjustments, lomas increased success can be chalked up to him adjusting during the fight.
                      Yes. But we have to look at the whole picture. When Loma fought Nakatani, he looked completely different, and that was after the surgery. He had a TUE before the lopez fight, and he said that he didn't know how long his arm would last. He only started throwing when he realized he had to go for broke because he was losing. He tried to limit the use of his jab, but it just wasn't working. He wasn't good enough to beat Lopez with one arm. He has to go for broke and risk it. It makes perfect sense looking at it from a broader perspective. Otherwise, it doesn't make any sense. We saw him in the second round knock Teofimo's head back, and then he just stopped, only to start doing it again in the seventh round. It's obvious now.

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