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  • Cypocryphy
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    #21
    Originally posted by techliam

    I agree with the latter part of your post
    But how can you claim the judges beat Loma, when you yourself concede that you can see the fight for Lopez also?
    Because the scorecards were ridiculous. Julie Lederman's card was a travesty (and she hasn't judged since, incidentally). The scorecards don't reflect what happened in the ring. I can understand Lopez winning because a close fight like that could go to either boxer, depending on what the judges see. And because they punch so quickly, it's hard to tell if a punch landed or was blocked. But Loma had the better of Teofimo in that ring. Lopez was given credit for punches that were blocked. The thudding sound must have impressed the judges as there was no crowd to dampen it.

    Anyway, what I'm saying is that the scorecards didn't reflect that actual fight. That's all. Fights that close can go to either guy.

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      #22
      Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo
      Tonight proved he's nothing but someone who relies on his huge size advantage and power. At 140, against fighters as big as him who hit just as hard and can take his shots, he is FOOD. I don't even think he has a chance against Zelda or Barrios, Taylor and Prograis will put him in a stretcher.
      I agree, yet he still beat LOMA. This same weight bully turned the matrix into Total recall......( You don't get it , i don't get it either, it sounded cool when i was writing it sci fi bars )

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        #23
        Originally posted by Cypocryphy

        Because the scorecards were ridiculous. Julie Lederman's card was a travesty (and she hasn't judged since, incidentally). The scorecards don't reflect what happened in the ring. I can understand Lopez winning because a close fight like that could go to either boxer, depending on what the judges see. And because they punch so quickly, it's hard to tell if a punch landed or was blocked. But Loma had the better of Teofimo in that ring. Lopez was given credit for punches that were blocked. The thudding sound must have impressed the judges as there was no crowd to dampen it.

        Anyway, what I'm saying is that the scorecards didn't reflect that actual fight. That's all. Fights that close can go to either guy.
        This fight was more clear cut but you were right about LOPEZ so i stand corrected. Loma made him look like a million dollars when in actual fact he is very very ordinary. With LOMA skill he should have beat a fighter like LOPEZ 10-2 but he didn't

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        • Cypocryphy
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          #24
          Originally posted by Noelanthony

          This fight was more clear cut but you were right about LOPEZ so i stand corrected. Loma made him look like a million dollars when in actual fact he is very very ordinary. With LOMA skill he should have beat a fighter like LOPEZ 10-2 but he didn't
          Yeah. For sure. I think Loma was very wary about his punching power. But when I think about it, it doesn't make too much sense to me because starting round six, he went into the pocket and traded with Teo. If I take what Loma says as true, that after the second round he had an "Oh ****" moment because his arm popped, then it makes sense to me.

          Actually, I remember now. Loma's dad, in Russian, said to Loma in round five or four: "What are you doing, almost half the fight is gone and you are not punching. We cannot win this way." I'm paraphrasing but that's practically what he said. And that tells me that the slow start was not the plan; it was an adjustment Loma made. And Loma said he was so worried that his arm would give out on him if he started using it right away that he held back.

          So really, the more I think about it, that fight only makes sense if we believe what Loma said and why he fought that way. I guess that's what an injured Loma looks like. He said that he had to skip a couple weeks of sparring because his arm was so messed up, that he had to get injections for the pain. I personally have had a similar injury and I couldn't get surgery right away. By the time I did, the inflammation around the injury was off the charts, so when he says it really hurt, I believe him.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Boxing-1013
            Teo struggled to find distance and range tonight. He doesn't usually have to work for it because he is a naturally gifted fighter athletically and usually finds himself in position to touch you with the jab, find the range, and let the right hand go.

            Kambo did a great job of staying out of range and controlling the distance with his feet, and then getting in and out/countering. Lopez didn't do well enough with his feet to get in position to control the distance and find the jab.

            Kambo did still have to take a lot of hard shots from Lopez that would have put down a lot of others.

            I don't know if all the top guys at 140 can take those shots. I don't think all of them would necessarily be as good as controlling range/distance either. Kambo did it very well, and I'm sure someone like Taylor could do it similarly.

            However, you are playing with fire the whole fight, still. Not an easy gameplan to execute. You have to be tough as nails. Not sure if any of those guys are as tough as Kambo was tonight.
            Great points, but others at 140 have different tools to contend with. Longer arms, an inside guy, pure size…. Just because they wouldn’t beat him like kambosos doesn’t mean the water gets any less deep.

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              #26
              lopez is hot garbage. his power is vastly overrated, he landed flush on that australian drywall installer time and time again and the aussie manlet just ate them and fired back. On top of his power being a myth, he is slow and plodding and doesnt even use his jab to set up shots, just swings widely making the australian lyft driver look like the next pernell. lopez would get ran over by C level jr welters the way that manlet put it on him tonight.

              His dad is a garbage trainer as well. He gave him very conflicting advice, first telling him to take his time and then like 15 seconds later telling him to go for the knockout. uwot mate. tell him to use his jab or some chit.
              Last edited by elfag; 11-28-2021, 05:43 AM.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Cypocryphy

                Yeah. For sure. I think Loma was very wary about his punching power. But when I think about it, it doesn't make too much sense to me because starting round six, he went into the pocket and traded with Teo. If I take what Loma says as true, that after the second round he had an "Oh ****" moment because his arm popped, then it makes sense to me.

                Actually, I remember now. Loma's dad, in Russian, said to Loma in round five or four: "What are you doing, almost half the fight is gone and you are not punching. We cannot win this way." I'm paraphrasing but that's practically what he said. And that tells me that the slow start was not the plan; it was an adjustment Loma made. And Loma said he was so worried that his arm would give out on him if he started using it right away that he held back.

                So really, the more I think about it, that fight only makes sense if we believe what Loma said and why he fought that way. I guess that's what an injured Loma looks like. He said that he had to skip a couple weeks of sparring because his arm was so messed up, that he had to get injections for the pain. I personally have had a similar injury and I couldn't get surgery right away. By the time I did, the inflammation around the injury was off the charts, so when he says it really hurt, I believe him.
                I do not believe Lomas arm stopped him from fighting. Yep trained extremely hard for loma and thought of it as the opportunity of his lifetime, he overlooked kambosos. I wouldn’t draw any correlation between one fight and the other except Teo planned to take away lomas attack with the jab early and had an actual game plan, this fight he tried to ko him in round 1 and had no gameplan

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                • Madison Boxing
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                  #28
                  he was exposed badly

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                    #29
                    All that sht talking... And now he's the JOKEOVER

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by El Más Loco

                      To the hispanic community? The only people claiming that guy was Hondurans and people from New York.........
                      You don't feel camaraderie with all Latinos? Just your countrymen?

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