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  • Mike_b
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    #1

    What are some glaring faults in your fav fighters?

    I'm gonna say Floyd, he had no power. Oscar de la Hoya in his book said his plan c for money may was to have him break his hand against Oscars noggin. Also look at the catchweight with jmm. He instinctively needed a power and size advantage against the mini Marquez. Also he couldn't turn off Ortiz's lights after a free one two combo. Then what really stands out was his lack of punching power against the Paul brother. Canelo and Manny both verbalized they were embarrassed by losing to Floyd. For PAC, it was roach citing his embarrassment and lusting of a rematch. Lately Canelo has been saying Floyd fights only those who are past their prime or before it. And that he would beat him prime for prime.
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    In his 4th and 5th weight class he wasn’t a hard puncher, no.

    There’s only a few examples were that isn’t the case.

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    • HENNY
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      Don't really have one, but I have been watching some Andre Ward fights recently online

      The more I watch him, the more I realize that he's really solid in every area of boxing. But he's not an expert or special in any single facet of the game

      In this case, his strength is his flaw. The LHW and SMW division never really had anyone special when Ward fought to bring out this flaw. But, if he fought in the 90's, I'm sure he'll have a loss or two on his resume. Imo, i can't imagine him beating RJJ or anything. Ward doesn't really have an x-factor in his overall arsenal

      Though, Ward's a really solid fighter overall, so don't mean to bash. It's good to watch fighters that are solid in all facets of the game

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        Originally posted by HENNY
        Don't really have one, but I have been watching some Andre Ward fights recently online

        The more I watch him, the more I realize that he's really solid in every area of boxing. But he's not an expert or special in any single facet of the game

        In this case, his strength is his flaw. The LHW and SMW division never really had anyone special when Ward fought to bring out this flaw. But, if he fought in the 90's, I'm sure he'll have a loss or two on his resume. Imo, i can't imagine him beating RJJ or anything. Ward doesn't really have an x-factor in his overall arsenal

        Though, Ward's a really solid fighter overall, so don't mean to bash. It's good to watch fighters that are solid in all facets of the game
        oh no im sorry!

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          my fav fighter is prob eric crumble and he was great he just didnt have the best chin

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            Ricky Hatton.

            ​​​​​​Lacks intelligence. I've a feeling he'd have been more successful if he relocated after the Tszyu win and went to train with Freddie Roach or something like that. Instead he got big headed and lazy inside and outside of the ring.

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              Derry Mathews: Brave and strong but outgunned on technical aspects as well as processing information
              Sergio Martinez: bad balance
              Julio Cesar Martinez: Maybe gets hit a little too clean for my liking
              Robert Guerrero: Slow slow slow
              Luis Alberto Lopez: Super unorthodox
              Virgil Ortiz: Needs to switch up his power, keep opponents guessing
              Badou Jack: Super slow starter, not as good as defensively as he thinks he is
              Oleksandr Uysk: Needs a bit more pop to his punches
              Artur Beterbiev: Needs to fight more
              Joe Smith: Has no X factor, needs to be able to step on the gas pedal
              Erislandy Lara: Old
              Roman Gonzalez: Old
              Guillermo Rigondueax: Old
              Israil Madrimov: Not experienced enough
              Jose Zepeda: A little inconsistent
              Gervontae Davis: A little inconsistent
              Sergiy Kovalev: Vodka liver
              Sebastian Fundora: It's like creating a video game character and putting all your points into height
              Jarell Miller: It's like creating a video game character and putting all your points into weight;

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                #8
                Originally posted by EnglishOxide
                Ricky Hatton.

                ​​​​​​Lacks intelligence. I've a feeling he'd have been more successful if he relocated after the Tszyu win and went to train with Freddie Roach or something like that. Instead he got big headed and lazy inside and outside of the ring.
                I believe roach said after the Manny fight about Hatton that for someone who was supposed to be a great fighter, he wasn't that great. Conceeding a cherry pick. Also Hatton was unrefined, rough house tactics, like popping the piston jab while leaping in with his feet (it looked pretty cool against Malignaggi) and also to his own admission upon hearing "break" we wouldn't take a step back instead step to the side to create more (rough housing) angles.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by anonymous2.0
                  Derry Mathews: Brave and strong but outgunned on technical aspects as well as processing information
                  Sergio Martinez: bad balance
                  Julio Cesar Martinez: Maybe gets hit a little too clean for my liking
                  Robert Guerrero: Slow slow slow
                  Luis Alberto Lopez: Super unorthodox
                  Virgil Ortiz: Needs to switch up his power, keep opponents guessing
                  Badou Jack: Super slow starter, not as good as defensively as he thinks he is
                  Oleksandr Uysk: Needs a bit more pop to his punches
                  Artur Beterbiev: Needs to fight more
                  Joe Smith: Has no X factor, needs to be able to step on the gas pedal
                  Erislandy Lara: Old
                  Roman Gonzalez: Old
                  Guillermo Rigondueax: Old
                  Israil Madrimov: Not experienced enough
                  Jose Zepeda: A little inconsistent
                  Gervontae Davis: A little inconsistent
                  Sergiy Kovalev: Vodka liver
                  Sebastian Fundora: It's like creating a video game character and putting all your points into height
                  Jarell Miller: It's like creating a video game character and putting all your points into weight;
                  That's quite the list. I appreciate your IQ

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                  • Mike_b
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Mike_b

                    I believe roach said after the Manny fight about Hatton that for someone who was supposed to be a great fighter, he wasn't that great. Conceeding a cherry pick. Also Hatton was unrefined, rough house tactics, like popping the piston jab while leaping in with his feet (it looked pretty cool against Malignaggi) and also to his own admission upon hearing "break" we wouldn't take a step back instead step to the side to create more (rough housing) angles.
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