Could Terence Have Beat Floyd

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  • MikeyMike100
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    #151
    He most definitely could've. It would be a real 50/50 fight.

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    • djtmal
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      #152
      Originally posted by Noelanthony

      yeah go and rest your briefcase on your forehead because you don't know what you are talking about. was de la hoya short armed? Was zab judah flat footed and slow?. I bet mosley was flat footed also ?
      Those guys were past their prime, and I am talking about when Floyd started cherrypicking his own resume. Post Hatton.

      Floyd cherrypicked a who's who of slow, short armed, flat footed, come forward fighters.
      Last edited by djtmal; 11-22-2021, 06:29 PM.

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        #153
        Originally posted by djtmal

        Those guys were past their prime, and I am talking about when Floyd started cherrypicking his own resume. Post Hatton.

        Floyd cherrypicked a who's who of slow, short armed, flat footed, come forward fighters.
        When was Floyds prime lol.

        If you only knew anything about boxing it must be hard to see with your head implanted up Mannys ass, if you only applied to Manny what you apply to Floyd you would have to shoot yourself lol, guess that's why you're a loser too. every excuse Manny made is another nail in his failures, he was good at losing though.

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          #154
          Originally posted by Roadblock

          When was Floyds prime lol.

          If you only knew anything about boxing it must be hard to see with your head implanted up Mannys ass, if you only applied to Manny what you apply to Floyd you would have to shoot yourself lol, guess that's why you're a loser too. every excuse Manny made is another nail in his failures, he was good at losing though.
          Floyd would duck Crawford because he's shown a pattern of consistently ducking fighters similar in style or dimension to Crawford.
          Last edited by djtmal; 11-22-2021, 07:09 PM.

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            #155
            Originally posted by djtmal

            Floyd would duck Crawford because he's shown a pattern of consistently ducking fighters similar in style or dimension to Crawford.
            Floyd never ducked anyone, only fanboys like you claim duck because a fight doesn't happen.

            Here is a classic duck to show the difference, Manny beat a CW Cotto after coming of a cheat beating, then later when Cotto held a 154 title Manny called him out, Cotto said no problems but no CW and Manny said no CW no fight, lol now this is as big a duck as you will ever find in the history of boxing, its proves beyond doubt Manny thought he couldn't beat Cotto without draining him.

            How the fck you beat a guy, then call him out for his title, then demand a CW and run off when he says ok I will fight you but no CW, biggest real duck ever.

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              #156
              Bud v floyd could have happened. Floyd ducked it, so i d favour bud to beat floyd. Can't penalise bud for Floyd's actions or inactions

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              • Noelanthony
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                #157
                Originally posted by djtmal

                Manny was past his prime, already been ko'd.

                Did Floyd even win. The fight looked inconclusive to me. Nothing but running and holding.

                Floyd was only fighting easy fights no risk.
                inconclusive to you? If one fighter was running and holding then their should be a rightful winner because holding and running doesn't score points in boxing. SO what was Pac doing in the fight?

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                • HENNY
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                  #158
                  Floyd

                  Both are counterpunchers, but Floyd is a better one. Plus Crawford does get hit with straight rights in his southpaw stance. Crawford's counter right hook and left uppercut will catch air, which are his two best punches imo

                  You need a jab to beat Floyd. Crawford does have a solid jab, but he just doesn't use it too often. That will be his downfall, and it will let Floyd potshot him all night

                  Good fight though, it may be boring from a casual boxing fans eye however

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                    #159
                    Originally posted by hugh grant
                    Bud v floyd could have happened. Floyd ducked it, so i d favour bud to beat floyd. Can't penalise bud for Floyd's actions or inactions
                    Bud has just managed to secure his first fight with a PBC GUY. when did FLOYD duck Crawford? Spence was the main guy at welterweight . If it was anyone that ducked Crawford it was manny. How dare you

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                      #160
                      Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
                      Some believed you need multiple gameplans to fight Floyd

                      the commentators say you’re preparing for two guys when facing Terence

                      Orthy Terence and Southpaw Terence

                      could Terence Southpaw Right Hook Crawford do it
                      A lot of ways to look at this match up. I always try precedent first: Im thinking here of the Zab Judah fight. Judah had a lot of the natural gifts and talents of a Crawford and was fighting well until he characteristically lost his concentration. To me Floyd, as talented as he was, was not principally a pure physical talent, like Ali, Jones, even Judah. He was fast enough for sure, but Floyd's game was more about accuracy, timing (perhaps his greatest attribute... him and Ward) and defensive ability.

                      Crawford has borderline Jones type athletic ability and he is very strong physically. Let me just be very clear here: On a chart if there was a cut off point concerning really elite physical ability alone... I might have at the top of the chart Jones, whitaker and Ali... A little more towards the middle guys like Robinson, and somewhere just over and into the section Crawford, and Judah... BUT in the next section down I would have Mayweather in there, so even with the advantage Crawford holds, I believe he isn't too far away, its not such an advantage over Mayweather...But it is there and just like Floyd had some problems with Zab Judah, Crawford would present a physical challenge of the same order. Speed kills, and Mayweather would have to have his timing down!

                      So who wins? In this day and age, probably both guys pot shot each other. Nobody really "wins" so much as one guy who has the judges on his side gets the decision. If these guys really fought each other? Like when fighters went hammer and tongs, took risks, etc. I think Crawford at anything over 135 wins... At 135 and below Floyd wins. Floyd was a phenom at 135... Hes short listed... Yes Guys like Pep, Armstrong certainly Robinson (better at light weight than Middle IMO) beat Floyd... and maybe a handful, or so of other guys...

                      Last edited by billeau2; 11-22-2021, 08:12 PM.

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