Comments Thread For: Andrade: There's a Whole Lot More in Me Than What Plant Showed With Canelo

[batista84]

Plant did NOTHING to Canelo but stay on that back foot and try to go the distance. Say what you will about Andrade, but he would at least go after Canelo. Whether he deserves teh shot or not, he would put up a much better effort than Caleb Plant.

I'm gonna be honest and this are just my thoughts, these are not facts, just an opinion, listen me well.

Since a long time ago I've always said that there were 4 guys who were very talented slick fighters, BJS, Andrade, Plant and Bivol, now Bivol fights in a different way than thes first 3 i mentioned so we'll leave him out of this discussion.

I'm not a 100% believer in compubox but it helps me to validate the eye test I got from a lot of fighters, BJS, Andrade and Plant are guys who carry very similar compubox numbers on their fights, they the kind of dudes who are great at winning rounds and who almost doesn't get hit, I always thought that BJS was gonna be the hardest test for Canelo of this 3 due to his ankward slick southpaw stance and his great jab, I was proved wrong by Plant as I think Plant did a better job than Saunders against Canelo.

One thing I was sure before coming into the fight with Canelo is that Plant had a better jab than Saunders, and he definitely put a hell of a job outjabbing Canleo by a huge margin. Now onto my point.

After watching Canelo deal with BJS and Plant I've got to the conclusion that slickness, ankwardness and a good jab is not gonna cut it off against Canelo, stop it, you are gonna need more a of a top boxer puncher or a relentless swarmer to beat Canelo, this is just me but I've seen Andrade fight since a long time ago, and I tell you, there is no way in hell this guy beats Canelo, he makes a lot mistakes that you can't make against Canelo, the Liam Williams fight told me everytying I had to know about a Canelo-Andrade fight, the dude is slower and less explosive than Plant and to me has the worst jab of the 3, if you ask me how would I define Andrade as a boxer my answer would be that he is a little heavier handed BJS with a worse jab.

As of today there are only 3 guys I give a solid chance to beat Canelo: Beterbiev, Benavidez and Charlo.

I'm no fortune teller, I can't say I'm 100 right, this is my belief and I 100% defend it because I know I'm right most of the times that I'm wrong plus watching boxing for 20 years. Andrade ain't gonna do it, his style will win him some rounds at the best and he would get countered and punished to the body all night. Canelo left hook would kill his right side, fight would play almost exactly as BJS.

[Boxing fan1981]

So tired of him. Tire of the name Canelo coming out of his mouth.

[MONGOOSE66]

Andrade to me is a “institutual” fighter. His lack of fundamentals is where he will slip with the top 4.

[Greenfield02]

I'm gonna be honest and this are just my thoughts, these are not facts, just an opinion, listen me well.

Since a long time ago I've always said that there were 4 guys who were very talented slick fighters, BJS, Andrade, Plant and Bivol, now Bivol fights in a different way than thes first 3 i mentioned so we'll leave him out of this discussion.

I'm not a 100% believer in compubox but it helps me to validate the eye test I got from a lot of fighters, BJS, Andrade and Plant are guys who carry very similar compubox numbers on their fights, they the kind of dudes who are great at winning rounds and who almost doesn't get hit, I always thought that BJS was gonna be the hardest test for Canelo of this 3 due to his ankward slick southpaw stance and his great jab, I was proved wrong by Plant as I think Plant did a better job than Saunders against Canelo.

One thing I was sure before coming into the fight with Canelo is that Plant had a better jab than Saunders, and he definitely put a hell of a job outjabbing Canleo by a huge margin. Now onto my point.

After watching Canelo deal with BJS and Plant I've got to the conclusion that slickness, ankwardness and a good jab is not gonna cut it off against Canelo, stop it, you are gonna need more a of a top boxer puncher or a relentless swarmer to beat Canelo, this is just me but I've seen Andrade fight since a long time ago, and I tell you, there is no way in hell this guy beats Canelo, he makes a lot mistakes that you can't make against Canelo, the Liam Williams fight told me everytying I had to know about a Canelo-Andrade fight, the dude is slower and less explosive than Plant and to me has the worst jab of the 3, if you ask me how would I define Andrade as a boxer my answer would be that he is a little heavier handed BJS with a worse jab.

As of today there are only 3 guys I give a solid chance to beat Canelo: Beterbiev, Benavidez and Charlo.

I'm no fortune teller, I can't say I'm 100 right, this is my belief and I 100% defend it because I know I'm right most of the times that I'm wrong plus watching boxing for 20 years. Andrade ain't gonna do it, his style will win him some rounds at the best and he would get countered and punished to the body all night. Canelo left hook would kill his right side, fight would play almost exactly as BJS.

Nice Assessment, I agree with pretty much everything you said besides Charlo having a shot. Benavides and Beterbiev have the best shot, Beterbiev because of his size and power and Benavides because he throws a ton of punches and has good power. I still would put Canelo as a slight favorite against both guys, but both pose danger. It seems no matter what you do, Canelo has probably the best ring generalship in boxing, he always makes you fight at his pace, and doesn't get flustered, so it would be interesting to see if either of those guys can change that. As far as Charlo, all I will say, good jab, but if a guy like Montiel can land 160+ punches against you, it doesn't vote well for Charlo against a guy who is an excellent counter puncher and lands at a high percentage against guys who are far slicker than Charlo. Still would love to see it though, especially since a ton of people think Charlo is so good, so would love to see any of them.

[NachoMan]

I'm gonna be honest and this are just my thoughts, these are not facts, just an opinion, listen me well.

Since a long time ago I've always said that there were 4 guys who were very talented slick fighters, BJS, Andrade, Plant and Bivol, now Bivol fights in a different way than thes first 3 i mentioned so we'll leave him out of this discussion.

I'm not a 100% believer in compubox but it helps me to validate the eye test I got from a lot of fighters, BJS, Andrade and Plant are guys who carry very similar compubox numbers on their fights, they the kind of dudes who are great at winning rounds and who almost doesn't get hit, I always thought that BJS was gonna be the hardest test for Canelo of this 3 due to his ankward slick southpaw stance and his great jab, I was proved wrong by Plant as I think Plant did a better job than Saunders against Canelo.

One thing I was sure before coming into the fight with Canelo is that Plant had a better jab than Saunders, and he definitely put a hell of a job outjabbing Canleo by a huge margin. Now onto my point.

After watching Canelo deal with BJS and Plant I've got to the conclusion that slickness, ankwardness and a good jab is not gonna cut it off against Canelo, stop it, you are gonna need more a of a top boxer puncher or a relentless swarmer to beat Canelo, this is just me but I've seen Andrade fight since a long time ago, and I tell you, there is no way in hell this guy beats Canelo, he makes a lot mistakes that you can't make against Canelo, the Liam Williams fight told me everytying I had to know about a Canelo-Andrade fight, the dude is slower and less explosive than Plant and to me has the worst jab of the 3, if you ask me how would I define Andrade as a boxer my answer would be that he is a little heavier handed BJS with a worse jab.

As of today there are only 3 guys I give a solid chance to beat Canelo: Beterbiev, Benavidez and Charlo.

I'm no fortune teller, I can't say I'm 100 right, this is my belief and I 100% defend it because I know I'm right most of the times that I'm wrong plus watching boxing for 20 years. Andrade ain't gonna do it, his style will win him some rounds at the best and he would get countered and punished to the body all night. Canelo left hook would kill his right side, fight would play almost exactly as BJS.

I didn't predict Andrade would beat Canelo, just give him a better challenge than Caleb Plant. Plant couldn't have cracked an egg with the shots he was throwing against Canelo and if you can't hurt Canelo and your middle name ain't "Joy" you're not beating him. Andrade loses his focus and fades after a few rounds, so I could not imagine him beating Canelo either, but I do think he would have more moments than the SMWs that have faced him. Andrade has more guts than Plant and BJS.

[NotWoke=Woke]

This guy literally ducked Lara in 2016. He verbally turned Lara down. It’s actually public, and not a false rumor or some troll fans just making stuff up.

Demetrius Andrade: Lara a Last Resort, I’d Fight Jack Culcay

“He won’t engage or try and make the fight entertaining, especially if it’s coming into my favor,” Andrade explained. “He’s just going to survive, try to run, try to do the little pitty-pat counter punches. I’m not about that right now. I’m about sitting in there, doing what I need to do best, and letting the fans know that I’m willing to get in there with anybody and put on a show and make ends meet.” - Andrade

He really called Lara a “last resort”, and “boring”, “pitty pat puncher”, “runner”. Lol. Does Andrade think he is Gatti in the ring? He could have just admitted that he didn’t want to lose his 0.

Andrade turned down Lara because he had bigger fish to fry, in Jack Culkay, in a fight that Andrade looked so mediocre in, that 1 judge even gave the fight to Culkay.

https://www.boxingscene.com/amp/demetrius-andrade-lara-last-resort-id-fight-jack-culcay--106350

He also pulled out of an agreed upon fight vs Charlo over “money”. He pulls out of the fight because Roc Nation told him to and they will pay him good money. The crybaby then pulled out.

ANDRADE PULLS OUT OF CHARLO FIGHT OVER MONEY, COMMUNICATION ISSUES

https://www.ringtv.com/365115-andrade-pulls-out-of-charlo-fight-over-money-communication-issues/

This guy cared about the money when he was unknown with no good wins. He thought he was an action hero like Gatti, so he turned down Lara. He also thought he was a big name in 2015, like he is De La Hoya, demanding big paydays. So he instead pulled out of the Charlo fight because there was better purses for him elsewhere. Because he was such demanded fighter by fans.

Andrade has put 0 work into his career. His lack of desire to climb up the ladder by facing legit contenders like Lara and Charlo, has hampered his career. He wants to fly to the top and skip the ladder and that has not worked for him.

I am having trouble thinking about which fighter in the last decade has been more undeserving of a title or the label of “champion”, than Andrade. Maybe Haney. It’s close.

He can retire today and no one would care.

All facts. Andrade might be the laziest fighter of this era, and the 2nd most entitled behind Haney, the affirmative action WBC beltholder who was fighting as a prospect against guys coming to lose and then all the sudden he signs with Hearn and gets gifted a belt via email lol. It's just a joke. And that fambase is so pathetic and ******, they all believe the hype and call them boogeyman when they have been.pritrctdd from fighting the best. I have no idea how these people have such low self esteem, self respect and honor to act out the way they do. Culture really means everything.

[Murray Kelm]

Everyone talks about Benavidez vs Charlo ,how about Benavidez vs Andrade. Benavidez I think would force Andrade to fight

[batista84]

Nice Assessment, I agree with pretty much everything you said besides Charlo having a shot. Benavides and Beterbiev have the best shot, Beterbiev because of his size and power and Benavides because he throws a ton of punches and has good power. I still would put Canelo as a slight favorite against both guys, but both pose danger. It seems no matter what you do, Canelo has probably the best ring generalship in boxing, he always makes you fight at his pace, and doesn't get flustered, so it would be interesting to see if either of those guys can change that. As far as Charlo, all I will say, good jab, but if a guy like Montiel can land 160+ punches against you, it doesn't vote well for Charlo against a guy who is an excellent counter puncher and lands at a high percentage against guys who are far slicker than Charlo. Still would love to see it though, especially since a ton of people think Charlo is so good, so would love to see any of them.

Agreed, Beterbiev and Benavidez are the most dangerous of these group of 3, Charlo is a dog, the dude has a chin, is heavy handed and has a killer uppercut which is a punch that Canelo wouldd have to be very careful not to get hit to, but like you said Charlo is not the best defensive fighter and Canelo would capitalize on that.

[batista84]

I didn't predict Andrade would beat Canelo, just give him a better challenge than Caleb Plant. Plant couldn't have cracked an egg with the shots he was throwing against Canelo and if you can't hurt Canelo and your middle name ain't "Joy" you're not beating him. Andrade loses his focus and fades after a few rounds, so I could not imagine him beating Canelo either, but I do think he would have more moments than the SMWs that have faced him. Andrade has more guts than Plant and BJS.

I honestly don't think Andrade gives a better fight than Plant, Plant philly shell to me worked great till Canelo's left hook started to hurt Plant's arms, like I said Andrade is so very similar to Saunders, his defense comes more from a high guard and upper body movement, but the dude is very sloppy at times, I've seen him have balance problems where he throws a punch and he ends exposing himself for a counter.

I respect your opinion but I do think Canelo beats him easier than Plant.

[NachoMan]

I honestly don't think Andrade gives a better fight than Plant, Plant philly shell to me worked great till Canelo's left hook started to hurt Plant's arms, like I said Andrade is so very similar to Saunders, his defense comes more from a high guard and upper body movement, but the dude is very sloppy at times, I've seen him have balance problems where he throws a punch and he ends exposing himself for a counter.

I respect your opinion but I do think Canelo beats him easier than Plant.

Plant did nothing to Canelo. He merely lasted 11 rounds before getting knocked out. Saunders put up a better fight. Andrade would do even better.