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  • #31
    Originally posted by djtmal View Post

    Floyds always at his best because he's only fighting easy fights. So it don't matter too much who and when he's fighting. Canelo needed that loss to step his game up. He did, then rematch Floyd and see what happens but again, Floyd only takes easy fights so Floyd wasn't risking rematching an improved Canelo even with the money being correct.

    High risk low reward = no
    High risk high reward = no
    Low risk high reward = yes
    No risk high reward = yes twice
    Ahh so all of Floyd’s fights are easy. Got it.

    He didn’t risk rematching a guy he beat 12-0. I get you’re an idiot cum slurper but that is a ****** post even for an imbecile like you.

    According to you, Floyd, who fought 25 title fights and fought many HOF’ers moving up in weight, never fought a high risk fight in his career.

    Clearly you’re not someone whose opinion is rational.

    All you’re good for is washing Manny’s nutsack with your tongue.

    Last edited by The Big Dunn; 11-08-2021, 09:43 AM.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by TheMyspaceDayz View Post
      Mayweather never fought anyone who was in their prime so no one here can say for sure if he would win. We have seen Canelo defeat good fighters in their prime though.
      You sure? When Corrales was in his prime he was a the favorite over Floyd when Floyd beat him. Castillo was the top LW in his prime when Floyd beat him. Hatton was undefeated in his prime.

      Question- is prime more important or is talent?

      is it better to beat a fighter who isn’t that good in their prime or is it better to beat a HOF that may not be in their prime but is still significantly better than the less talented prime fighter?

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      • #33
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

        You sure? When Corrales was in his prime he was a the favorite over Floyd when Floyd beat him. Castillo was the top LW in his prime when Floyd beat him. Hatton was undefeated in his prime.

        Question- is prime more important or is talent?

        is it better to beat a fighter who isn’t that good in their prime or is it better to beat a HOF that may not be in their prime but is still significantly better than the less talented prime fighter?
        Corrales had the flu and let’s be honest… exciting fighter but a one dimensional, offensive machine.

        Castillo beat Mayweather.

        Hatton is a smothering type fighter who beat people like Tszyu solely based on the fact that they need distance to operate.

        And to answer your question, if you’re the supposed goat then why duck the HOF guys while they are in their prime? I mean, won’t you mop the floor with them? What’s the hold up?
        Last edited by TheMyspaceDayz; 11-08-2021, 09:49 AM.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

          Ahh so all of Floyd’s fights are easy. Got it.

          He didn’t risk rematching a guy he beat 12-0. I get you’re an idiot cum slurper but that is a ****** post even for an imbecile like you.

          According to you, Floyd, who fought 25 title fights and fought many HOF’ers moving up in weight, never fought a high risk fight in his career.

          Clearly you’re not someone whose opinion is rational.

          All you’re good for is washing Manny’s nutsack with your tongue.
          Its a bigger risk rematching an improved Canelo without question. Canelo hasn't lost since losing to Floyd and that has been a minute now. Also beat one of his biggest rivals in his prime something Floyd managed not to do.

          High risk high reward. That isn't in Floyds best interest.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by TheMyspaceDayz View Post

            Corrales had the flu and let’s be honest… exciting fighter but a one dimensional, offensive machine.

            Castillo beat Mayweather.

            Hatton is a smothering type fighter who beat people like Tszyu solely based on the fact that they need distance to operate.

            And to answer your question, if you’re the supposed goat then why duck the HOF guys while they are in their prime? I mean, won’t you mop the floor with them? What’s the hold up?
            So he did beat people in their prime but you are not giving him credit for it. That is your choice but to say he didn’t fight anyone in their prime is false.

            That doesn’t answer my question. That asks and then answers something different.

            Please just answer the question as asked. Is it better to beat prime fighters or not prime fighters that are more talented and better fighters than those in their prime?

            To answer your questions- he didn’t duck anyone. He fought guys when they were willing to fight him.

            Some guys he didn’t fight, no different than any other boxer. Of course when it’s Floyd posters that don’t like him label it the worst possible way.

            Would appreciate an answer to what I asked.

            Last edited by The Big Dunn; 11-08-2021, 10:08 AM.

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            • #36
              Yep! Floyd would still fuck him up; Even this 2021 version of Canelo..None of the guys that Canelo has defeated thus far aren't nearly or even so much as remotely close to Mayweather when it comes to skill level, championship experience, heart and athleticism.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

                You sure? When Corrales was in his prime he was a the favorite over Floyd when Floyd beat him. Castillo was the top LW in his prime when Floyd beat him. Hatton was undefeated in his prime.

                Question- is prime more important or is talent?

                is it better to beat a fighter who isn’t that good in their prime or is it better to beat a HOF that may not be in their prime but is still significantly better than the less talented prime fighter?
                The best guys Floyd beat in their prime was Hatton, Corrales, and Canelo. Out of those 3 Canelo is the only atg candidate. Hatton should make HOF status i doubt Corrales rip.

                Its always best to beat the best guys in their prime, especially in your respective era, so their is no room for excuses or interpretation, and we know you card carrying Floyd Boys thrive on excuses and interpretation.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by whollisboxing View Post

                  Canelo is too big at this point so of course he would win
                  The question was for a 154 lbs not a 168 lbs and my answer was yes. He would still defeat this 2021 version of Canelo Alvarez.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by djtmal View Post

                    Its a bigger risk rematching an improved Canelo without question. Canelo hasn't lost since losing to Floyd and that has been a minute now. Also beat one of his biggest rivals in his prime something Floyd managed not to do.

                    High risk high reward. That isn't in Floyds best interest.
                    The risk is because Floyd is over 44 years old, not because Canelo has gotten better.

                    Floyd has beaten plenty of people in their prime. The ones he didn’t are the ones that avoided him.

                    Floyd has fought plenty of high risk, high reward fights. He’s just so great that he makes those fights look incredibly easy.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by djtmal View Post

                      The best guys Floyd beat in their prime was Hatton, Corrales, and Canelo. Out of those 3 Canelo is the only atg candidate. Hatton should make HOF status i doubt Corrales rip.

                      Its always best to beat the best guys in their prime, especially in your respective era, so their is no room for excuses or interpretation, and we know you card carrying Floyd Boys thrive on excuses and interpretation.
                      Please answer the question as asked.

                      You think a win over “prime” Clottey or Thurman carries more weight than wins over “not prime” ODH, Manny, Shane or Cotto?

                      Of course they don’t. Those men weren’t as good in their “ primes” as the others were as older fighters.

                      Now would beating a prime Shane, odh, Manny or Cotto be better than beating an older version?

                      Absolutely, which is why all of them, either directly or through their promoter, waited to fight Floyd.


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