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  • #41
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post



    To answer your questions- he didn’t duck anyone. He fought guys when they were willing to fight him.

    Some guys he didn’t fight, no different than any other boxer. Of course when it’s Floyd posters that don’t like him label it the worst possible way.

    Would appreciate an answer to what I asked.

    Floyd ducked Winky Wright, Margarito, Paul Williams, Cotto, Manny, Khan and Thurman definitely.

    Wright, Margarito and Manny he backed out of negotiations with so those are ducks, Thurman, Khan and Margarito you couldn't call out a fighter any louder than those guys and Floyd I guess the phone was broke or something.

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    • #42

      Perhaps, if Canelo stops juicing then he could probably still make the 154 lbs limit.
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      • #43
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

        So he did beat people in their prime but you are not giving him credit for it. That is your choice but to say he didn’t fight anyone in their prime is false.

        That doesn’t answer my question. That asks and then answers something different.

        Please just answer the question as asked. Is it better to beat prime fighters or more not prime fighters that are more talented and better fighters than those in their prime?

        To answer your questions- he didn’t duck anyone. He fought guys when they were willing to fight him.

        Some guys he didn’t fight, no different than any other boxer. Of course when it’s Floyd posters that don’t like him label it the worst possible way.

        Would appreciate an answer to what I asked.

        your question is a worthless one with an obvious answer. A truly great fighter would have challenged and then defeated all the most dangerous fighters of his era while they were in their prime. Ali did it right. Mayweather did it wrong.

        Floyd ducked Margarito, Williams, Winky to name a few. He feared people with a reach advantage. And he ducked plenty of others who he eventually fought when they weren’t so hot anymore.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

          The risk is because Floyd is over 44 years old, not because Canelo has gotten better.

          Floyd has beaten plenty of people in their prime. The ones he didn’t are the ones that avoided him.

          Floyd has fought plenty of high risk, high reward fights. He’s just so great that he makes those fights look incredibly easy.
          No the risk is losing your undefeated record to a fighter who poses a threat.
          Floyd isn't doing that for no amount of money.

          The fighters that Floyd beat in their prime is not impressive enough. The fighters that he did beat that were the best just were shopworn fighters that nobody gives him much credit for in mass numbers, and trying to say fighters tried to avoid him is an excuse.
          Last edited by djtmal; 11-08-2021, 10:36 AM.

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          • #45
            yes if they were around the same weight. canelo was in his prime when he fought floyd, only difference is he had a moving target infront of him not one of these slow stiff 168 fighters hes been fighting

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            • #46
              Originally posted by TheMyspaceDayz View Post

              your question is a worthless one with an obvious answer. A truly great fighter would have challenged and then defeated all the most dangerous fighters of his era while they were in their prime. Ali did it right. Mayweather did it wrong.

              Floyd ducked Margarito, Williams, Winky to name a few. He feared people with a reach advantage. And he ducked plenty of others who he eventually fought when they weren’t so hot anymore.
              Ok so you’re not going to answer it. That must mean it’s better to beat more talented fighters that are “ past” prime than “ prime “ fighters that aren’t that good. I figured as much.

              Ali is a unique figure at a time when the hwt division was at its best.

              He simply didn’t fight Margs or Williams. He fought other people. Manny didn’t fight Zab and Williams, did he duck them too or is it only Floyd that you say ducked when a fight didn’t happen?

              Winky was in a completely different weight class.

              As I posted the other men, either through their promoters or themselves chose not to fight. You blaming Floyd for that is incredibly biased.
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              • #47
                Originally posted by djtmal View Post

                No the risk is losing your undefeated record to a fighter who poses a threat.
                Floyd isn't doing that for no amount of money.

                The fighters that Floyd beat in their prime is not impressive enough. The fighters that he did beat that were the best just were shopworn fighters that nobody gives him much credit for in mass numbers, and trying to say fighters tried to avoid him is an excuse.
                Floyd is over 40 and retired. The only threat to his undefeated record is Father Time. Floyd had made enough money that he doesn’t have to fight anymore.

                It really bothers you that Floyd could retire while Manny had to keep fighting and ultimately take the beating he did from Ugas.

                Wasn’t impressive enough? His beating these guys earned him FOTY, FOTD, the consensus best of his era and a 1st ballot hofer.

                Actually the guys that avoided him made excuses not to fight him, either themselves or through their team.

                All of them, except for Shane , have admitted such. Shane of course is on camera making an excuse so he looks like a clown when he tries to blame Floyd.
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                • #48
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

                  Please answer the question as asked.

                  You think a win over “prime” Clottey or Thurman carries more weight than wins over “not prime” ODH, Manny, Shane or Cotto?

                  Of course they don’t. Those men weren’t as good in their “ primes” as the others were as older fighters.


                  Dude what kind of backwards logic is that. You just trying to once again, set up bs questions designed to give Floyd an excuse ie a pass for fighting shopworn versions of the best fighters on his resume.
                  Try something else.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

                    Ok so you’re not going to answer it. That must mean it’s better to beat more talented fighters that are “ past” prime than “ prime “ fighters that aren’t that good. I figured as much.

                    Ali is a unique figure at a time when the hwt division was at its best.

                    He simply didn’t fight Margs or Williams. He fought other people. Manny didn’t fight Zab and Williams, did he duck them too or is it only Floyd that you say ducked when a fight didn’t happen?

                    Winky was in a completely different weight class.

                    As I posted the other men, either through their promoters or themselves chose not to fight. You blaming Floyd for that is incredibly biased.
                    Name one fighter who had a reach advantage over Floyd. I’ll wait lol. When a fighter has a reach advantage then you need a certain level of grit to overcome them because they are gonna mark you up regardless and that’s something Mayweather didn’t have.

                    He ducked guys with reach advantages and ducked others. If you were a threat then you were ducked. Not rocket science.

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                    • #50
                      Canelo will always be Mayweather's son.

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