Canelo surpasses Floyd, is now second, just behind Pacquiao on the list of greatest fighters of the last 25 years

[Stuntman Mike]

Floyd beat everyone Manny beat and he also beat the ones that beat Manny, the risk is perceived by you as the reason he lost, he lost because he wast good enough to even beat a novice like Horn, that was no risk that was a cherry-pick gone wrong.

Manny is a class below Mayweather that's why their resumes are what they are and that's why Floyd beat without raising a sweat, that's why Manny lost 10 % of his fights to some ordinary fighters, that's why Manny left the sport a loser,,,,,,,he wasn't good enough to win when he should have.

There's so many ways to spin things and a lot of ins and outs

Manny didn't feel the need to retire at 30 some years old...mayweather obviously thought the sport was too much of a risk to his health at that point in time ...he didn't want to fight any of the top guys at that point so he announced his retirement

Floyd broke a sweat against maidana he was getting manhandled around the ring enough to encite a rematch because of the controversy,many people believed maidana won...maidana I'm sure lost to Amir Khan and Devon Alexander

I I remember correct mayweather went life and death with maidana and Devon Alexander dominated and nearly stopped maidana in the 8th and scored a kd in the 3rd which wasn't counted by the idiot referee

Going by your raising a sweat standards Devon Alexander is a better fighter than floyd

[The Big Dunn]

So since Calzaghe beat RJJ and BHop and retired undefeated, you have him ahead of those 2 guys right?

You should be ashamed of yourself for posting this. You’re not one of the dumbasses. Don’t let a hot debate make you do things the imbecile **** riders do.

Roy and Bhop were well past it when Calzaghe fought them.

Canelo was fresh, 13 years younger and riding a winning streak over quality opposition.

Roy was 39. Bhop was 43. Calzaghe was 36.

I don’t think it is an even comparison.

[Oracle01]

Calzaghe beating Jones and Bhop is a perfect example.

Just because Floyd beat a green dehydrated Canelo doesn’t mean he will go down greater than him. Canelo has surpassed Floyd and will only solidify it in the next few years.

FLOYD fans are stumped when asking them if Calz is greater than Roy and Bhop because he holds wins over them. Lol

ye canelo was so green with only 44 pro fights lol. Canelo mania is a legit mental illness. Floyd spanks every version of Canelo. I'd still bet on him today even.

[The Big Dunn]

Think of the time...
the sport had its drug testing process
Pacquiao and Floyd were both super stars of equal right


What Floyd asked of Manny was unheard of at the time

Was it out of fear Floyd put these stipulations in ??

If manny jumped through every hoop Floyd wanted him to he would have had no respect for himself


You need to think outside the box buddy...it's Floyd that saw how much a monster manny was that he was certain such a ferocious warrior was not natural or it was a smoke screen to throw the negotiations...either way its a cowardly move

I know if it was roles reversed there's no way Floyd would agree if it was mannys idea...hes a control freak and it would show weakness

That is because Floyd is the cash cow. They were not equal as you suggest.

When odh came up with all kinds of stuff, Floyd said ok and won. Manny isn’t cut from the same cloth.

He made excuses. He had his promoter make excuses. And then when he finally came around to fighting ( after being confronted face to face) he lied on the form and tried to cheat.

[STREET CLEANER]

So 1 and 2 are fighters that Floyd beat?

[Stuntman Mike]

That is because Floyd is the cash cow. They were not equal as you suggest.

When odh came up with all kinds of stuff, Floyd said ok and won. Manny isn’t cut from the same cloth.

He made excuses. He had his promoter make excuses. And then when he finally came around to fighting ( after being confronted face to face) he lied on the form and tried to cheat.

It's horse **** and you know it..Floyd needed an iv... Manny requested the toradol for his shoulder injury ..I am no longer replying to you Dunn..
you're in love with floyd just like the other guy ans a manny hater

[Stuntman Mike]

So 1 and 2 are fighters that Floyd beat?

That's like saying rocky marciano is greater than Joe Louis because marciano beat him regardless of the other ins and outs ..don't be so moronic

[The Big Dunn]

It's horse **** and you know it..Floyd needed an iv... Manny requested the toradol for his shoulder injury ..I am no longer replying to you Dunn..
you're in love with floyd just like the other guy ans a manny hater

What shoulder injury? You can’t have it both ways. He lied on the form. You don’t want to admit it or hold him accountable.

A lot of you guys will then defend the lying and attempt to cheat by saying, “ well Floyd may have walked away….” BS. You simply can’t admit how bad it looks to someone neutral.

You’re going to stop replying because Rather than call you names, I laid out facts that are hard for you to discuss rationally because there is no rational excuse for them.

Yes I am a floyd fan. You’re a Manny fan. Discussions don’t have to degenerate.

[The Big Dunn]

That's like saying rocky marciano is greater than Joe Louis because marciano beat him regardless of the other ins and outs ..don't be so moronic

Louis was much older than Marciano. Wasn’t in his prime. That is why Marciano isn’t better than Louis despite beating him. The better man lost.

Floyd is older than Manny and canelo. He beat them both by a wide margin. The better man won.

That is why the Marciano/Louis example is not relevant when looking at Floyd v Canelo and Manny.

[Toyman]

Most would agree canelo's resume is ahead of Floyd's by this stage.

Floyd's biggest wins in the latter half of his career are all tainted.

Manny fight most people actually agree that Manny won. Floyd needed an iv and peds and still wsd outboxed by 1 handed Manny. That's the sad truth - see spoons vid for proof of the true punch count.

Floyd's win over canelo is tainted because the simple truth is that canelo was a weight drained teenager. Floyd didn't even win convincingly so barely getting by a teenage zombie doesn't really count.

Floyd was also given a gift in both maidana fights, specially the first.

Floyd fans are the only ones who like to pretend Floyd's career isn't overrated.