Canelo surpasses Floyd, is now second, just behind Pacquiao on the list of greatest fighters of the last 25 years

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  • djtmal
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    #81
    Originally posted by Stuntman Mike

    Think of the time...
    the sport had its drug testing process
    Pacquiao and Floyd were both super stars of equal right


    What Floyd asked of Manny was unheard of at the time

    Was it out of fear Floyd put these stipulations in ??

    If manny jumped through every hoop Floyd wanted him to he would have had no respect for himself


    You need to think outside the box buddy...it's Floyd that saw how much a monster manny was that he was certain such a ferocious warrior was not natural or it was a smoke screen to throw the negotiations...either way its a cowardly move

    I know if it was roles reversed there's no way Floyd would agree if it was mannys idea...hes a control freak and it would show weakness
    Floyd was scared the whole camp was scared. His pops feared for his life.
    Manny kept agreeing to Floyds demands and Floyd kept moving the goal posts.
    The Floyd Boys on here were working overtime with the excuses. Quite a pathetic scene. All because Manny flattened Hatton in two rounds with Floyds pops in Hattons corner.

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    • Roadblock
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      #82
      Originally posted by djtmal

      Floyd was scared the whole camp was scared. His pops feared for his life.
      Manny kept agreeing to Floyds demands and Floyd kept moving the goal posts.
      The Floyd Boys on here were working overtime with the excuses. Quite a pathetic scene. All because Manny flattened Hatton in two rounds with Floyds pops in Hattons corner.
      Manny was a loser, lost all throughout his career, lost 10% of his fights and left the sport a loser beaten by guys Floyd toys with, nothing to be scared about with Manny he lost to some novices lol that everyone else destroys, Manny was a paper tiger, a man-made resume if it was a canoe its so full of holes it sinks like a stone,

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      • Noelanthony
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        #83
        Originally posted by clmags12

        LOL! Saying something after that would make me feel like a bully. You f@g.

        In all seriousness, how and why is Floyd greater, than either Manny or Canelo in your opinion. Explain, I would like to see your perspective.
        This all you had to do is ask and i would gladly share with you my own insight into the topic. Firstly i actually don't have a problem posters, reporters writers, whoever saying Pacquiao is greater than Maywether because arguably his feats are. 8 division champion, becoming a champion at 40 etc. My only qualm and its why i have responded to a few posters is that their reasoning for putting Pacquiao ahead of Mayweather.

        * Mayweather purposely ducked PAC until he was out of his prime
        *He ducked fights he know he would lose
        * cherry picked all his fights, he is a coward
        *chased the money not the greatness

        Now personally i have huge question marks about the way in which Pac carried his power through out all weight classes but i have no concrete prove just su****ion so rightly so i cant speak on it and i give him his flowers. i place a lot of credence for a fighter going through their career undefeated and the manner in which he has faced high calibre opposition and still been victorious. Pacquiao has lost 8 times but admittedly the best have lost and to opponents that they shouldnt have. So my own subjective opinion i marvel more at a fighters skillset and how the pick apart their opponent rather then all the other stuff. However, as stated Pac deserves it and im not arguing with people because he is

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        • Stuntman Mike
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          #84
          Originally posted by Roadblock

          Manny was a loser, lost all throughout his career, lost 10% of his fights and left the sport a loser beaten by guys Floyd toys with, nothing to be scared about with Manny he lost to some novices lol that everyone else destroys, Manny was a paper tiger, a man-made resume if it was a canoe its so full of holes it sinks like a stone,
          Only read the bold ...well guys you heard it here first Roadblock only rides winners schlongs and he will milk that winning balls ....he loves pretending his boyfriend is 50-0 when he's being sodimised by him and he calls him tbe and strokes white bald head when they spoon

          You are just posting hate because you are in love with floyd.. a man you've never even met

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          • Stuntman Mike
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            #85
            Originally posted by Noelanthony

            This all you had to do is ask and i would gladly share with you my own insight into the topic. Firstly i actually don't have a problem posters, reporters writers, whoever saying Pacquiao is greater than Maywether because arguably his feats are. 8 division champion, becoming a champion at 40 etc. My only qualm and its why i have responded to a few posters is that their reasoning for putting Pacquiao ahead of Mayweather.

            * Mayweather purposely ducked PAC until he was out of his prime
            *He ducked fights he know he would lose
            * cherry picked all his fights, he is a coward
            *chased the money not the greatness


            Now personally i have huge question marks about the way in which Pac carried his power through out all weight classes but i have no concrete prove just su****ion so rightly so i cant speak on it and i give him his flowers. i place a lot of credence for a fighter going through their career undefeated and the manner in which he has faced high calibre opposition and still been victorious. Pacquiao has lost 8 times but admittedly the best have lost and to opponents that they shouldnt have. So my own subjective opinion i marvel more at a fighters skillset and how the pick apart their opponent rather then all the other stuff. However, as stated Pac deserves it and im not arguing with people because he is
            The bold is the only thing worth reading and investigating further here

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            • Roadblock
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              #86
              Originally posted by Stuntman Mike

              Only read the bold ...well guys you heard it here first Roadblock only rides winners schlongs and he will milk that winning balls ....he loves pretending his boyfriend is 50-0 when he's being sodimised by him and he calls him tbe and strokes white bald head when they spoon

              You are just posting hate because you are in love with floyd.. a man you've never even met
              Im posting facts and figures not hype Im not into the what if and fantasy BS, I would sooner just stick to the realities in life, Manny lost 10% of his fights, Manny was beaten and stopped by guys Floyd toys with, Manny left the sport a loser.

              Straight up that's the way it is for real.

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              • Stuntman Mike
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                #87
                Originally posted by Roadblock

                Im posting facts and figures not hype Im not into the what if and fantasy BS, I would sooner just stick to the realities in life, Manny lost 10% of his fights, Manny was beaten and stopped by guys Floyd toys with, Manny left the sport a loser.

                Straight up that's the way it is for real.
                Manny liked to take risks...I'm all about the fighters that give back to the fans not the ones that run into the sunset with bags full of money


                Hey if you are in love with mayweather that's OK I used to have crushes with girls on TV when I was 8 years old too

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                • Roadblock
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Stuntman Mike

                  Manny liked to take risks...I'm all about the fighters that give back to the fans not the ones that run into the sunset with bags full of money


                  Hey if you are in love with mayweather that's OK I used to have crushes with girls on TV when I was 8 years old too
                  Floyd beat everyone Manny beat and he also beat the ones that beat Manny, the risk is perceived by you as the reason he lost, he lost because he wast good enough to even beat a novice like Horn, that was no risk that was a cherry-pick gone wrong.

                  Manny is a class below Mayweather that's why their resumes are what they are and that's why Floyd beat without raising a sweat, that's why Manny lost 10 % of his fights to some ordinary fighters, that's why Manny left the sport a loser,,,,,,,he wasn't good enough to win when he should have.

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                  • hugh grant
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Roadblock

                    Floyd beat everyone Manny beat and he also beat the ones that beat Manny, the risk is perceived by you as the reason he lost, he lost because he wast good enough to even beat a novice like Horn, that was no risk that was a cherry-pick gone wrong.

                    e.
                    Economical with truth or outright lies here.
                    Floyd hasnt beat anyone who beat pac. When did Floyd go to Aussie land and beat horn, when did Floyd beat Morales and Bradley and ugas?
                    Only cheatedvscales to beat jmm

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Stuntman Mike

                      Floyd was hurt? Took two years off when pacquiao looked so dangerous that floyd did the unheard and demanded specific testing knowing pac wasn't a beta male and wasn't going to give in to another man's demands who was essentially equal to him as it would have shown weakness for even further negotiations ..he demanded the drug testing as a smoke screen

                      there's also a video of him saying what pacquiao was doing wasn't natural...he was afraid

                      And the other fighters at the time were paul Williams, margarito and cotto

                      All were good talents and scarier than any fighter floyd had fought up until that point in his career
                      You’re framing it this way because you don’t like Floyd. You’re giving Manny a pass for his excuses to not test. You’re also leaving out the things both Bob and Roach have said publicly about them delaying the fight.

                      If you think Manny was “dangerous” that is fine. Why would he be dangerous for Floyd? He’s not faster. He didn’t have a longer reach. He showed problems with fighters that stick and move.

                      No, he thought Manny was cheating. As it turns out, when they fought, Manny lied on the form. Now whether you like Floyd or hate him, Manny lying to try and get Toradol shows Floyd was on to something. Besides, if Manny weren’t using there is no way he’d allow Bob to use that silly scared of needles BS. Don’t care how much you love Manny that had to raise a red flag.

                      Yes those are the guys. So please tell me how they were so scary? You’re giving them some kind of career boost because Floyd didn’t fight Margs and pwill. That isn’t valid.

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