Will we be talking about Patricia Morse Jarman after the fight

[TreyShaw]

Unlike most I feel Canelo/Plant will be a very close fight where the judges will play a big role. Jarman has been notorious for iffy cards. She’s also a Premier boxing champions Judge who promotes Plant. The consensus is it’s difficult to get a decision against Canelo but history has thought is that even the biggest stars aren’t untouchable to the Politics of the sport.

Did Canelo have a say In selecting judges was it all left up to Plants promotion? Might be crucial come fight time.

[TreyShaw]

Also I believe she scored last weeks fight for Jamal James until the stoppage which was pretty atrocious.

[Clegg]

Not to be sexist but it feels like a lot of the worst scorecards in recent memory have been by women. Which is saying something as there aren't even that many female judges

I think Canelo wins inside the distance but yeah if goes the full 12 she might give us a 'wtf were you watching?' type card, the Butaev fight was an indicator of something going on with her agenda.

[billeau2]

Also I believe she scored last weeks fight for Jamal James until the stoppage which was pretty atrocious.

Oh she is a shiat judge... She has all kinds of bogus decisions... Judging is the worse thing for boxing, worse than the promoters who make crap cards and often rob fighters... So many awful decisions...

[TreyShaw]

Oh she is a shiat judge... She has all kinds of bogus decisions... Judging is the worse thing for boxing, worse than the promoters who make crap cards and often rob fighters... So many awful decisions...

Oh yea She has a lot of questionable cards over her career.

My thing is why wouldn’t say Canelos people notice this and be like hey hey hold on let’s remove her.

[Smash]

could be, if plant can do his job and make the fight close, who knows, she could be a plant banker and one of the other judges may turn on nelo for the right price or influence obviously, thats a possibility i guess, but canelo is the money guy and money talks but depends too, nelo is on a fight by fight basis at the moment i think so its up in the air whos hes going to be making money for in the future too, interesting cards if the fight is competitive, or even not so at times, some cards are just pure embarrassment, but noone seems to mind that

[billeau2]

Oh yea She has a lot of questionable cards over her career.

My thing is why wouldn’t say Canelos people notice this and be like hey hey hold on let’s remove her.

I hate to say it... Because it is a slanderous allegation, but I think it is a real possibility: Any corrupt judge probably works for the highest payola... She may have been paid by either side... despite any associations that show patronage to one fighter, or another.

Also, there is always a big picture to boxing: what do the Casino's want? what fighter will generate more down the line? Judges, no doubt have to fall in line with those projections.

[billeau2]

Not to be sexist but it feels like a lot of the worst scorecards in recent memory have been by women. Which is saying something as there aren't even that many female judges

I think Canelo wins inside the distance but yeah if goes the full 12 she might give us a 'wtf were you watching?' type card, the Butaev fight was an indicator of something going on with her agenda.

You sexist you! Women just see things diffrently is all, not a problem... For example, take that fight last week: A female judge had the guy winning that was beat piller to post. But it made sense... she stated "the poor guy was getting hurt and looked like he needed some help, besides violence is not good, there are many victims of violence."

[TreyShaw]

could be, if plant can do his job and make the fight close, who knows, she could be a plant banker and one of the other judges may turn on nelo for the right price or influence obviously, thats a possibility i guess, but canelo is the money guy and money talks but depends too, nelo is on a fight by fight basis at the moment i think so its up in the air whos hes going to be making money for in the future too, interesting cards if the fight is competitive, or even not so at times, some cards are just pure embarrassment, but noone seems to mind that

Exactly Canelo is a free agent so I don’t see anyone doing him a favors. Haymon could be banking on Plant being star if he can get “passed” Canelo.

[Smash]

Exactly Canelo is a free agent so I don’t see anyone doing him a favors. Haymon could be banking on Plant being star if he can get “passed” Canelo.

yes, its really all up to plant to make a statement if he can & hope for the best with the judges, i hope its a good scrap and then we will see whats what