Comments Thread For: Canelo Alvarez: As High As He Gets?

[ShoulderRoll]

Alavarez shouldn’t even be a top 20 best boxers ever period. No fighter with a failed test or suspension should. I say that as a former Roy jones fan. I don’t care how or why he failed, he failed. Unless y’all can show me proof he’s never taken anything before, which you can’t he should be treated like every fighter to pop dirty. That’s my opinion, his fans can foam rabidly all they want. If this was any other fighter y’all wouldn’t stfu about it. Same way Marciano fans can suck it, man used plaster of Paris. You are accountable for what’s in your blood. End of.

When did Marciano use Plaster of Paris?

[Gideon lock]

He could get higher potentially depends on what he smokes and how much tbh.

[JohnnyCan]

Alavarez shouldn’t even be a top 20 best boxers ever period. No fighter with a failed test or suspension should. I say that as a former Roy jones fan. I don’t care how or why he failed, he failed. Unless y’all can show me proof he’s never taken anything before, which you can’t he should be treated like every fighter to pop dirty. That’s my opinion, his fans can foam rabidly all they want. If this was any other fighter y’all wouldn’t stfu about it. Same way Marciano fans can suck it, man used plaster of Paris. You are accountable for what’s in your blood. End of.

Marciano didn’t use plaster of Paris. What are you talking about? He was the best puncher pound for pound that ever lived and beat everyone including future hall of famers. You are delusional my friend.

[boxing IQ]

Alvarez could miss all night, lose every round, and get knocked down twice, and somehow Moretti and Weisfeld will still have it 117-111 Alvarez.

[boxing IQ]

Drug cheats who get gift decisions, weight drain opponents, and have guys throw fights for their biggest paydays will never be true Hall of Famers. It helps sell the fight though.

[j0zef]

Disagree. Canelo can easily go higher, because he's still very much missing a few "notable" wins. There are asterisks everywhere.
Cotto was good, but significantly smaller and retired soon afterwards.
Lara was one of the better boxers he fought, and that fight is disputed.
Golovkin fights are highly disputed.
Jacobs was already beaten by Golovkin, and he didn't look the same anyway - just look at how much he struggled vs. Rosado.
Kovalev was coming off 2 stoppage losses and fought Yarde barely 2 months earlier where he struggled mightily. Dude was a shadow of his former self.
Callum - Callum was coming in looking good, the WBSS winner. Then he goes out and puts up a huge dud against John Ryder, getting a gift decision. It's a good win for Canelo, but Ryder fight put a huge damper on Callum's reputation.
BJS, in my opinion, is the best pure win of Canelo's career. Saunders came in tip top shape, and looking like the same fighter who embarrassed Lemieux. Canelo destroyed him after he found his groove in mid rounds.

Now we get Plant.. who's fought nobody. His 2 best fights are against Truax and Uzcategui, guys who barely make Top10. Dude's gonna cash out and disappear after fighting 2 more bums.

Canelo needs notable wins, guys with excellent reputations and who have not struggled the fight before. David Benavidez is one. Dude's destroyed almost everyone put in front of him, whose biggest problems are motivation. He has Mexican heritage. This fight has HOF potential written all over it.

If we want to see how much Canelo has grown as a boxer, don't put him in with Plant. Put him in against Bivol, who's basically the same exact size, but is a much better boxer with better credentials.

Or how about Zurdo? Dude has wasted his career so far, but is a Mexican fighter, undefeated, and an absolutely top contender for the crown.

Lastly there's Beterbiev, who's a top dog at LHW.