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  • 15round
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    #11
    Originally posted by revelated

    You didn't answer my question.

    You preferred Frank Sanchez - not engaging, barely throwing, against Ajagba who just got clipped every time he did try to go in.

    That's what you prefer of HEAVYWEIGHT fighters - boxing, but not fighting.

    RIght?
    If Fury would have picked him apart and taken him in the later rounds without getting knocked down himself that would have established some greatness. The first Stiverne fight and Fury Wilder II are the only fights that I know where Wilders opponent did not go down or out. I thought Fury needed to put on a clinic to show he improved from the first two fights but he didn't.

    If Wilder was more skillful he should have finished off Fury after he knocked him down. Both fighters didn't separate them from the other heavyweights by this performance. After fighting Wilder twice Fury should have known how to wear him down and quickly take him out in the later rounds. He can still get hit but by being knocked down he opens himself up to the possibility that other fighters can also and unlike Wilder finish him off.

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      #12
      Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
      2 heavyweights showed greatness that night, that fight will go down in history.

      Heavyweight classics generally aren’t technically skilled contests, it’s two 200lb+ men slugging it out, I don’t know what you were expecting to see in all honesty.
      If Fury would have picked him apart and taken him in the later rounds without getting knocked down himself that would have established some greatness. The first Stiverne fight and Fury Wilder II are the only fights that I know where Wilders opponent did not go down or out. I thought Fury needed to put on a clinic to show he improved from the first two fights but he didn't.

      If Wilder was more skillful he should have finished off Fury after he knocked him down. Both fighters didn't separate them from the other heavyweights by this performance. After fighting Wilder twice Fury should have known how to wear him down and quickly take him out in the later rounds. He can still get hit but by being knocked down he opens himself up to the possibility that other fighters can also and unlike Wilder finish him off.

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        #13
        Originally posted by 15round

        If Fury would have picked him apart and taken him in the later rounds without getting knocked down himself that would have established some greatness. The first Stiverne fight and Fury Wilder II are the only fights that I know where Wilders opponent did not go down or out. I thought Fury needed to put on a clinic to show he improved from the first two fights but he didn't.

        If Wilder was more skillful he should have finished off Fury after he knocked him down. Both fighters didn't separate them from the other heavyweights by this performance. After fighting Wilder twice Fury should have known how to wear him down and quickly take him out in the later rounds. He can still get hit but by being knocked down he opens himself up to the possibility that other fighters can also and unlike Wilder finish him off.
        You're just another Joshua bumboy. You dudes are annoying. Joshua failed to deliver in front of his own fans and kinda just slinked off after the 9th round. No matter how lacking in showcasing skill Fury and Wilder was, it beats watching a guy pretty much hand another guy his title.

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          #14
          Originally posted by 15round

          If Fury would have picked him apart and taken him in the later rounds without getting knocked down himself that would have established some greatness. The first Stiverne fight and Fury Wilder II are the only fights that I know where Wilders opponent did not go down or out. I thought Fury needed to put on a clinic to show he improved from the first two fights but he didn't.

          If Wilder was more skillful he should have finished off Fury after he knocked him down. Both fighters didn't separate them from the other heavyweights by this performance. After fighting Wilder twice Fury should have known how to wear him down and quickly take him out in the later rounds. He can still get hit but by being knocked down he opens himself up to the possibility that other fighters can also and unlike Wilder finish him off.
          You can also establish greatness by providing quality and memorable fights both guys did that. You could make the same critique about Bowe-Holyfield, doesn’t change the fact it will go down in boxing history.

          Fury has definitely separated himself from the rest of the division. He’s the clear #1.

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            #15
            Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

            You can also establish greatness by providing quality and memorable fights both guys did that. You could make the same critique about Bowe-Holyfield, doesn’t change the fact it will go down in boxing history.

            Fury has definitely separated himself from the rest of the division. He’s the clear #1.
            How can one separate themselves from the division when they only have fought an awkward heavy puncher three times? Then there is Wallin and he hasn't been tested against anyone so we don't know what he can bring. Fury needs to fight at least two fights each year in the next three years with the best in the division to separate himself.

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              #16
              I agree Usyk -Joshua was more skilled fight, But Fury -Wilder was a better war.

              But on the other hand, Wilder was much more game in his fight than Joshua in Usyk fight. Joshua was outboxed like an i.diot.
              Last edited by JakeTheBoxer; 11-02-2021, 05:58 AM.

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                #17
                It's harsh to say today's heavyweights aren't great without the past heavyweights having wins over fury or usyk. I mean George foreman showed how good he was. By beating moorer

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by 15round

                  Until someone cleans up the heavyweight division there is no greatness.
                  I agree with that. There's still the possibility for them to prove they are great. But they haven't done it yet imo.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
                    2 heavyweights showed greatness that night, that fight will go down in history.

                    Heavyweight classics generally aren’t technically skilled contests, it’s two 200lb+ men slugging it out, I don’t know what you were expecting to see in all honesty.
                    Greatness is exactly what we saw that night. It isnt always about technical ability and perfect boxing. It's called prize FIGHTING for a reason. Everybody will always remember Gatti/Ward trilogy but not for the technic. Its remembered for what both guys left in the ring. Good post brother some people just dont understand what we saw.

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                      #20
                      There's a reason that Fury didn't want the rematch. It didn't prove anything. He had nothing to gain and everything to lose.

                      The idea that beating Wilder, again, establishes Fury's greatness is odd. He battered him in the second fight. What did beating him again prove?

                      If that's how it works then he should probably just go and beat him up again. By Fury v Wilder 6 he'll be the greatest of all time.

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